Jason Freeman
Competition Judge
Long Island Iced Free
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Post by Jason Freeman on Sept 19, 2009 22:56:42 GMT -5
too many people are agreeing and now Ive decided this is too big a change for me and I shall now fully oppose because it seems like its gonna happen now <_<
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Post by rep on Sept 19, 2009 22:59:47 GMT -5
We will battle about this on the next show.
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Post by Lass Sarin on Sept 19, 2009 23:06:32 GMT -5
I would support one show a week, but I'm far from campaigning for the change (largely because Thunderkiss supports it). Howay, lass. That's a bit daft, like. Just cos somebody you've had conflict with wants it, doesn't mean you should bitterly oppose it. I agree with it. But if you take away the Nov PPV, I WILL CRY COS I WANT CYMRU FEVER TO LAST FOREVER ;_; My post was an obvious joke. You're drunk. Hush.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 19, 2009 23:11:19 GMT -5
Regardless, like I said in the BC, I agree with 4 Wed shows a month, Wednesday Night Meltfare.
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VorteX
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Post by VorteX on Sept 20, 2009 0:14:22 GMT -5
Anything but Wednesday. Monday or Tuesday could work out, however I like the Friday Night Fallout prospect. I don't think we have enough people at this point to keep going two shows, as much as I hate to say that since Warfare and Meltdown will always be an ACW staple for me.
As far as all of these supercard ideas, I would just have 6 PPV's a year (maybe five if there was some need to leave three months open for OE) and forget about the super cards as they are basically PPV's without set names. As far as PPV's go I would go with:
January - Ragnarok March - Genocide June - Omega Effect August - Heatwave October - Samhain December - Fallen Heroes
EOTR is not a big enough tournament to deserve it's own PPV since we already have Fallen Heroes for that. If it was to be kept around it could be done before Fallen Heroes as a sort of position mechanism for the rumble since both things yield a World Title shot. I put Fallen Heroes at the end of the year since the motto 'some will fall and some will rise' (which is what I've always pictured FH as) is fitting for an end of year situation.
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 1:09:57 GMT -5
Why Samhain? Seven Deadly Sins is a cooler name, and the October fit is perfect.
I would prefer a Tuesday TV show, but I don't think Wednesday should be out of the question. Really, either Tuesday or Wednesday would be fine for me. Thursday and Friday are too late, I actually do my writing on Fridays, so the schedule would be crippling until I got in to a good cycle.
I can see Fallen Heroes at the end of the year, but I don't like Samhain, so what about...
PPV Events Supercard Events
January: Ragnarok February: Supercard March: Genocide April: Supercard May: Supercard June: Omega Effect July: Supercard August: Heatwave September: Supercard October: Seven Deadly Sins November: Supercard December: Fallen Heroes
I think we should have supercards, because they are not Pay-Per-Views with unique names, they're the midtone between TV and PPV, and I doubt that ACW is ready for the substance we're proposing here. We have to ease in to it, and despite the agreements we're hearing, I don't think many people will really be able to handle the stretched schedule. So we need to ease in to it gradually, and eventually drop the supercards. Believe me, I would much rather not have them, but the only reason I'm voting for them is for the better of the fed and this system's shelf life.
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Post by thesinner on Sept 20, 2009 4:25:30 GMT -5
Want extra incentive to override Freeman's opinion? Me neither, there's plenty already. However, I come here bearing a proposition.
I know my credibility has been somewhat low from my recent actions across the past few months (from it's already low low standpoint) such as leaving for SLA, coming back, leaving again because I just plain couldn't be bothered to write and then going mental on Jon Taylor and blocking him forever (which, might I add I believe he should stay banned).
However, in light of this proposition I will throw in a major bonus for ACW if you do decide to switch to one show a week.
What could I offer you that would further make you want to impliment this idea or turn on your heels and support it? On the day of the election, should you go forward and opt to make a permanent switch to one show weekly, I am hereby promising that I will bring back the Daniel Mainer character to make a full, competitive return exclusively to ACW with the full activity required of a show. When? Effective at the pay-per-view closest to when this decision will come into effect. However, should it stay on the two show format I shall not be making any return plans in the near future. So with that little extra added into the mix, it should give all of you something to think about. Time is ticking ladies, continuing with two shows will result in to things getting worse.
Yours Sincerely, Daniel Ziegler.
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 5:14:05 GMT -5
Sweet, he posted his real name. Now we can stalk him via MySpace.
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Post by thesinner on Sept 20, 2009 5:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 5:24:35 GMT -5
Well now it's no fun. You sucked the fun right out of it.
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 5:30:43 GMT -5
Alright, after speaking with Daniel Ziegler, I was reminded that Fallen Heroes features a match where the incentive is a match at Omega Effect. Obviously if we're holding the hand of the impatient, having five months in between for build up is out of the question, and I had only set it up like that because I was going off of what Vortex had said. Here's draft three, of what I'm sure will be a ten draft project.
PPV Events Supercard Events
January: Ragnarok February: Supercard March: Fallen Heroes April: Supercard May: Supercard June: Omega Effect July: Supercard August: Heatwave September: Supercard October: Seven Deadly Sins November: Supercard December: Genocide
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I've swapped Fallen Heroes and Genocide. We have a nice three month build up for Omega Effect which is the basis of what a main event feud should be, with the option obviously to build up an angle a little bit before FH, an option for the angle-goers. Genocide is in December, it fits like a glove. The name indicates all out war, and what better place to have manslaughter than at the end of a calendar year?
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Post by thesinner on Sept 20, 2009 5:37:30 GMT -5
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Post by El Shadowo on Sept 20, 2009 5:38:33 GMT -5
Like CP, I was one of those people against the dropping of a show a few months back, but likewise, I've changed my mind on the situation.
Mainer has already shown that dropping from two shows to one could bring back (and indeed, bring in) people who felt that two shows a week was too much. Even I have felt under incredible pressure over the last few weeks, as has been evident by the fact I've been getting two promos in a show as of late. I also know alot of people are fairly intimidated by the amount of work it is percieved to participate in the fed, and I think dropping to one show a week might make ACW more attractive to new members.
As far as the PPV/Supercard situation, maybe the supercards could be the show on which "midmonth" title defences would be enforced? The booking crew could book a show of title matches not against feud partners but against worthy competitors to ensure the champion deserves his title? Because otherwise, title reigns will double without the champions actually deserving the longer title run <_<
Of course, the reall question would be will dropping a show increase quality/quantity of the shows, or will people still leave writing everything until the day before. ¬_¬
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Post by The Red Panther on Sept 20, 2009 6:18:00 GMT -5
Drop it, the main reason I kept leaving is that I struggeled to keep up with two shows a week, and now with school I'm strugeling. How About during school time we have one, and during the time off we have two?
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 6:19:51 GMT -5
I think the supercards should be where the midmonth title matches happen, which would mean that the midmonth title matches would be cut to 6 mandatory matches a year with room for optional ones. One EVERY month is overkill, and chances are the champion will be defending the title again anyway on one of the PPVs, since they'd become more rare.
People are pushing for the champion to be defending his title a ton, but in a way I'm starting to sympathize with a champion. If we go through with that system, I don't think I'd want to win a title if I'm going to have to defend it in non-story based matches with the possibility of losing it to someone who I'm not even involved with. It seems like a ton of work in a non-appealing way, in the way that you don't control anything.
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