Jake Steele
Competition Judge
Nosepass, Pass Pass Pass
Posts: 3,230
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Post by Jake Steele on Aug 25, 2008 22:45:24 GMT -5
Yay for ignoring other comments. Ah settle down Steele, I'm not going to write a book tonight to cover every comment, but since you are eager to get a response here we go (next time call me a mark, that might work for ya ) First and foremost, I agree that Don West and Tennay perhaps are not the best in the business, but their "Terrible" performance is way exaggerated. I'd say that the WWE has their own announcer problems that are on the same level as TNA's. Second, there is not one single person on the microphone anymore on the WWE roster that jumps out at me for being "great." Just for a quick point counterpoint, lets examine the champions. You can say all you want about Joe's mic skills, but is Punk any better? Nope. Take a look at TNA. Cage is excellent on the microphone. Angle is entertaining as hell. Jarrett is a legend on the stick. Daniels is terrific as Curryman. Hell, even Sharkboy makes me laugh with his comments. The Wrestling is ten times better. TNA has harder workers. Creed, Black Machsimo, Petey Williams & and AJ Styles are just some names that come to mind that easily out perform any match you see on Raw or Smackdown week after week. TNA actually has a real womans division with real womans wrestlers. TNA actually has a tag division where tag teams stick together instead of being broke up on a constant basis. They also have, go figure, real feuds around the tag titles. The only thing that TNA doesnt have is a large budget, and let's be honest, that's what gives it a bad reputation among many wrestling fans. Especially our AD/HD generation who wont touch anything because "It doesn't flash a lot and have pretty lights." You're wrong. Very wrong. Don West and Mike Tenay scream over EVERY comment, when in WWE they atleast fucking let the stars get their promo out with maybe a small comment here or there. I stopped watching TNA mainly because the announcing was fucking annoying and filled with two loud mouth faces who don't know HOW TO announce. The WWE announcers have slip-ups here and there as any announcers do, and as they should eventually, but they haven't been showed reading off of scripts and masturbating to a fucking Steiner/Joe match announcement. Please. Biggest joke statement in this topic yet. HHH? Jericho? HBK (most of the time)? Hell, SANTINO has more Charisma and mic skills than Joe and I would rather see him be World Champ in TNA than Joe. Punk is alright, not the best, I'll give you that but to say TNA has people with better mic skills really is making me think you ARE a "mark". The wrestling is not that good in TNA, it has its rare, rare moments. But after a nice spot happens, it's almost instantly followed with: Don West: DID YOU SEE THAT TENAY!!? Mike Tenay: HE JUST *insert spot here* AND IT WAS AMAZING! Which makes all matches horrible. I'll give you that on the women's division as I actually agree on that. They also kill a wrestlers push, put him in a mask, all so he can help sells of a video game... does that NOT sound like WCW to you? Is your fanboyism from WCW really carried over that hard to TNA? Because it's sad. The budget doesn't mean shit. ROH doesn't have a huge budget and it's probably the best American federation out there.
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Jake Steele
Competition Judge
Nosepass, Pass Pass Pass
Posts: 3,230
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Post by Jake Steele on Aug 25, 2008 22:47:42 GMT -5
Finally before I call it a night, you come on pretty strong, you gotta be Ridley or something. He's not, I know him from another fed.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:47:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that them having Kaz promote a video game is a WCW thing to do, but it's certainly a stupid TNA thing to do.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:49:11 GMT -5
Finally before I call it a night, you come on pretty strong, you gotta be Ridley or something. And you come off as a weak minded mark who doesn't know good wrestling. You must be Debolt.
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Post by theonlyredsfan on Aug 25, 2008 22:51:45 GMT -5
Finally before I call it a night, you come on pretty strong, you gotta be Ridley or something. Hes not...i know him from other places
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Post by theonlyredsfan on Aug 25, 2008 22:52:24 GMT -5
Debolt where does that sound familiar from?
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:58:33 GMT -5
Awesome, everyone knows me.
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Post by xs3 on Aug 25, 2008 23:02:16 GMT -5
Scum, for the record, Raven isn't in TNA anymore. Just noticed that in your post and thought I'd point that out. >_>
Hmm, TK/Stark lives on through SURGE/Scum? This could be very interesting... *grabs a lawn chair, popcorn and Coke and sits back*
EDIT: I agree with people in here, the Knockout's division is indeed a highlight.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 23:12:47 GMT -5
But he's still fat because of them.
I BLAME IT ALL ON TNA!
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Post by Fallen Souls on Aug 25, 2008 23:18:25 GMT -5
>.> What's your problem with Ridely, Ken? He's not all that bad <.<
As far as this conversation your both ignoring the others points because of your ignorant opinion that each other is wrong....both have brought up valid argument, yet it doesn't stop the rampage of insults and craziness going on >.> We don't need anymore major conflict, and the fact your starting it over this is just stupid <.< So..you know...CALM DOWN ALREADY!!!!!
....Besides, Who needs TNA and WWE when you can watch Dragon Gate?
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Post by Scott Andrews on Aug 25, 2008 23:42:55 GMT -5
As far as this conversation your both ignoring the others points because of your ignorant opinion that each other is wrong....both have brought up valid argument, yet it doesn't stop the rampage of insults and craziness going on >.> We don't need anymore major conflict, and the fact your starting it over this is just stupid <.< So..you know... CALM DOWN ALREADY!!!!!Glad somebody said it. This thread reeks of elitist bullshit and ignorance. Fuck it man, just watch what you wanna watch and if you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple logic. No wrestling promotion is ever gonna be perfect. I'm a wrestling fan and I'll watch anything and everything (unless of course it really IS terrible) even just to check it out. I'll watch different promotions for different reasons like CHIKARA, PWG, ROH, TNA and WWE as well as some Japanese and Mexican stuff. I guess I'm just more eclectic than some, but for fucks sake stop bitching about trivial shit based purely on your opinion.
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Post by bryce on Aug 26, 2008 5:35:04 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out Punk has great mic skills...he just hasn't be able to show them off like he did in RoH.
-Slowly walks away-
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Post by jonnyomega on Aug 26, 2008 10:21:00 GMT -5
As far as this conversation your both ignoring the others points because of your ignorant opinion that each other is wrong....both have brought up valid argument, yet it doesn't stop the rampage of insults and craziness going on >.> We don't need anymore major conflict, and the fact your starting it over this is just stupid <.< So..you know... CALM DOWN ALREADY!!!!!Glad somebody said it. This thread reeks of elitist bullshit and ignorance. Fuck it man, just watch what you wanna watch and if you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple logic. No wrestling promotion is ever gonna be perfect. I'm a wrestling fan and I'll watch anything and everything (unless of course it really IS terrible) even just to check it out. I'll watch different promotions for different reasons like CHIKARA, PWG, ROH, TNA and WWE as well as some Japanese and Mexican stuff. I guess I'm just more eclectic than some, but for fucks sake stop bitching about trivial shit based purely on your opinion. Quoted because Scott speaks nothing but the truth. He even likes the same promotions as I do.
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Post by xs3 on Aug 26, 2008 12:35:31 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out Punk has great mic skills...he just hasn't be able to show them off like he did in RoH. -Slowly walks away- inb4watchhisROHstuff
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Post by The Senator on Aug 26, 2008 12:59:16 GMT -5
As far as this conversation your both ignoring the others points because of your ignorant opinion that each other is wrong....both have brought up valid argument, yet it doesn't stop the rampage of insults and craziness going on >.> We don't need anymore major conflict, and the fact your starting it over this is just stupid <.< So..you know... CALM DOWN ALREADY!!!!!Glad somebody said it. This thread reeks of elitist bullshit and ignorance. Fuck it man, just watch what you wanna watch and if you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple logic. No wrestling promotion is ever gonna be perfect. I'm a wrestling fan and I'll watch anything and everything (unless of course it really IS terrible) even just to check it out. I'll watch different promotions for different reasons like CHIKARA, PWG, ROH, TNA and WWE as well as some Japanese and Mexican stuff. I guess I'm just more eclectic than some, but for fucks sake stop bitching about trivial shit based purely on your opinion. Scott and FSX speak the truth. The TNA announcers ARE awful, and actually make me mute the television when I'm watching the show. Nobody with the exception of Mizanin(and he's not an announcer) can do that from the WWE crews, even if Cole grates on my nerves, King's bland as stale bread, and while Adamle was a terrible announcer, he wasn't constantly interrupting promos with reckless abandon, and yelling at inappropriate times. Also, I must be the only guy left on this board who doesn't mind Joe... Edit: What's wrong if someone packs on a few pounds? Heck, Stan Hansen was never a slim jim or a Chris Masters type, and I'd rank him above anyone you throw out there. As long as they can work a match, and retain cardio, it shouldn't matter.
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