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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 25, 2008 21:19:47 GMT -5
In a while. So stupid I had to force my opinion on this board. I tune into Raw and see this crime time .. oh, sorry .. crime TYME segment that is mind numbing. Neither one can work the mic and they have spawned another chat that is just as stupid as the "WHAT?"
I mean, say what you want about the TNA crowd but at least they don't repeat the word "WHAT" like an arena full of 1st graders.
Seriously, I do not want another WWE fan to say this stuff is better than TNA to me - for at least a week.
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Post by BAWSE Train on Aug 25, 2008 21:49:50 GMT -5
*Cryme Tyme. It's better than TNA, deal with it.
*Runs*
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Post by Jake Steele on Aug 25, 2008 21:54:13 GMT -5
What the fuck are you talking about?
So what they're not the greatest on the mic, but if you seriously think TNA has better mic skills then I'm sorry but that's horrible, horrible logic. Atleast the announcers don't fucking yell over everything that happens in WWE, all the fucking time.
This is how the Cryme Tyme segment would have went on the "glorious" TNA:
*Cryme Tyme pops up on the camera*
Don West: LOOK! LOOK! ITS CRYME TYME! Mike Tenay: I SEE! OH MY GOD WEST AND THEY HAVE BOTH OF THE TAG TITLES! Don West: SERVES THOSE PRICELESS PUNKS RIGHT! Mike Tenay: YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY ARE PUNKS!
*The whole time Cryme Tyme was talking on the mic*
WWE is better than TNA. You're welcome.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:03:36 GMT -5
TNA is pure garbage.
I love how this mark said "Cryme Tyme have no mic skills" when the World Champion Samoa Joe has the mic skills of a turnbuckle. He's fucking horrible on the mic and is subpar at best in the ring. While WWE makes major mistakes in booking, they're minimal compared to the garbage wasteland that is Total Nonstop Atrocity.
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Post by xs3 on Aug 25, 2008 22:06:33 GMT -5
Train told me to get in on this so...
...um, TNA sucks? >_> I wouldn't know, I haven't watched it for a long-ass time.
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Post by BAWSE Train on Aug 25, 2008 22:08:12 GMT -5
YEAH!
RSX3!
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Post by theonlyredsfan on Aug 25, 2008 22:10:36 GMT -5
I dont want to be left out. TNA is teh sux!!!
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 25, 2008 22:18:43 GMT -5
TNA is pure garbage. I love how this mark said "Cryme Tyme have no mic skills" when the World Champion Samoa Joe has the mic skills of a turnbuckle. He's fucking horrible on the mic and is subpar at best in the ring. While WWE makes major mistakes in booking, they're minimal compared to the garbage wasteland that is Total Nonstop Atrocity. lol, I've been called a mark. Gotta love it. I've never heard anyone say Samoa Joe is "subpar" in the ring, that's a first. Not only do I disagree, without a doubt he is better on the microphone than Cryme Tyme which is nothing more than a pop culture gimmick to tap into the rap hip/hop culture. The big guy talking (I don't know their names, I don't care) looked completely lost in his words and to sum things up, if they didn't work out the first time, I doubt they will again. I'm sorry TNA doesn't have a multi million dollar budget to candy coat your wrestling with state of the art graphics but when it comes down to the more entertaining product, it's TNA by far.
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Post by Jake Steele on Aug 25, 2008 22:22:36 GMT -5
TNA is pure garbage. I love how this mark said "Cryme Tyme have no mic skills" when the World Champion Samoa Joe has the mic skills of a turnbuckle. He's fucking horrible on the mic and is subpar at best in the ring. While WWE makes major mistakes in booking, they're minimal compared to the garbage wasteland that is Total Nonstop Atrocity. lol, I've been called a mark. Gotta love it. I've never heard anyone say Samoa Joe is "subpar" in the ring, that's a first. Not only do I disagree, without a doubt he is better on the microphone than Cryme Tyme which is nothing more than a pop culture gimmick to tap into the rap hip/hop culture. The big guy talking (I don't know their names, I don't care) looked completely lost in his words and to sum things up, if they didn't work out the first time, I doubt they will again. I'm sorry TNA doesn't have a multi million dollar budget to candy coat your wrestling with state of the art graphics but when it comes down to the more entertaining product, it's TNA by far. Yay for ignoring other comments.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:28:12 GMT -5
I have no clue what youre talking about, because I'm not a fan at all of high production values. If anything TNA's are too high for me, but then again how can a TNA fan not say something stupid?
TNA is clearly the worst wrestling product in the world right now. I'd rather go to a horrible local indy show than watch the crap that Spike shits out of it's desperate anus every week
You can say that WWE only pushes Cryme Tyme because of the want of the rap community. Let's say that you're right about their skill (and you aren't, just for the record) but if you were, at least they'd have a reason to push Cryme Tyme. TNA has no reason to push Joe. He's a fat worthless loser that wants to wrestle the cruiserweight style and fails with every passing match.
Not to mention the fact that Killer Kowalski on his death bed would probably be more agile than he is, add in the fact that the surrounding product is completely horse shit.
I'd say that the only thing TNA is doing correctly is their women's division, and it shows, because they've been the highest rated segments over the past month or so.
Isn't that SAD? What if that were happening in the WWE? What if the women's division was getting higher ratings than the World Title matches?
It's a god damn JOKE. Kurt Angle has no right to be in a ring anymore, Samoa Joe is fat and talentless, Christian Cage is packing on the pounds himself, RHINO got fucking fat, RAVEN got fat. What is it with the TNA locker room getting fat? I didn't think it was possible for wrestlers to get fat while they work for a promotion that can't even afford catering.
It's a widely known fact that TNA has been in the red since it's inception, and they haven't made a dollar since then. And rightfully so, because their product is pure garbage and a complete mess, just like WCW was in 2000.
You can deny it all you want and you can continue to take shots, but it's true. Your favorite promotion is complete and utter COCK and the only reason you watch TNA is because you think it gives you some sort of one up on Vince for killing your favorite promotion.
Newsflash: I've always hated the WWF and I barely tolerated WCW. But at least I'm not so blind as to make a habit of watching the competition no matter how horrible it is. And that's what TNA is. Horrible.
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Post by BK London on Aug 25, 2008 22:32:35 GMT -5
Most stupidest isn't exactly the smartest phrase to use either...
*runs*
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 25, 2008 22:34:17 GMT -5
Yay for ignoring other comments. Ah settle down Steele, I'm not going to write a book tonight to cover every comment, but since you are eager to get a response here we go (next time call me a mark, that might work for ya ) First and foremost, I agree that Don West and Tennay perhaps are not the best in the business, but their "Terrible" performance is way exaggerated. I'd say that the WWE has their own announcer problems that are on the same level as TNA's. Second, there is not one single person on the microphone anymore on the WWE roster that jumps out at me for being "great." Just for a quick point counterpoint, lets examine the champions. You can say all you want about Joe's mic skills, but is Punk any better? Nope. Take a look at TNA. Cage is excellent on the microphone. Angle is entertaining as hell. Jarrett is a legend on the stick. Daniels is terrific as Curryman. Hell, even Sharkboy makes me laugh with his comments. The Wrestling is ten times better. TNA has harder workers. Creed, Black Machsimo, Petey Williams & and AJ Styles are just some names that come to mind that easily out perform any match you see on Raw or Smackdown week after week. TNA actually has a real womans division with real womans wrestlers. TNA actually has a tag division where tag teams stick together instead of being broke up on a constant basis. They also have, go figure, real feuds around the tag titles. The only thing that TNA doesnt have is a large budget, and let's be honest, that's what gives it a bad reputation among many wrestling fans. Especially our AD/HD generation who wont touch anything because "It doesn't flash a lot and have pretty lights."
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:34:40 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that it's ironic that this TNA druid is watching WWE and complaining about it, meanwhile none of the WWE fans watch TNA to complain about it because it isn't even worth their time.
Also, to clarify, I'm not a WWE fan and haven't seen an entire episode that I've enjoyed... ever. But it's clear that WWE makes less mistakes than the awful and atrocious TNA.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 25, 2008 22:40:22 GMT -5
You can deny it all you want and you can continue to take shots, but it's true. Your favorite promotion is complete and utter COCK and the only reason you watch TNA is because you think it gives you some sort of one up on Vince for killing your favorite promotion. I dislike Vince, but I still watch WWE, because I won't say that it's all bad. However, like tonight, many WWE fans act as if their "shit doesn't stink" when it most certainly does. TNA is not my favorite promotion because of McMahons actions, but rather because I DO find it entertaining and worth two hours every week. Finally before I call it a night, you come on pretty strong, you gotta be Ridley or something.
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Post by stranger on Aug 25, 2008 22:43:09 GMT -5
First and foremost, I agree that Don West and Tennay perhaps are not the best in the business, but their "Terrible" performance is way exaggerated. I'd say that the WWE has their own announcer problems that are on the same level as TNA's.
I'd say that TNA's problems are on an entirely different planet. Don West became a wrestling fan the same year that he debuted. Mike Tenay is like Terry Gordy. He was once great, but since then he's horrible.
Second, there is not one single person on the microphone anymore on the WWE roster that jumps out at me for being "great." Just for a quick point counterpoint, lets examine the champions. You can say all you want about Joe's mic skills, but is Punk any better? Nope.
I was never a huge fan of Punk, but there are definitely people in the WWE that are better on the mic than in TNA. Santino Marella, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, even the overrated Edge and John Morrison.
Take a look at TNA. Cage is excellent on the microphone. Angle is entertaining as hell. Jarrett is a legend on the stick. Daniels is terrific as Curryman. Hell, even Sharkboy makes me laugh with his comments.
Sharkboy's gimmick is fucking terrible, even as a joke gimmick. Curryman is garbage as well. I think I see a pattern with all of the guys that you mentioned. They were either MADE in the WWF or in Jarrett's case, they had a better run in WCW. TNA refuses to make new stars, and the stars that they do make fucking suck, like Curryman and Shark boy.
The Wrestling is ten times better. TNA has harder workers. Creed, Black Machsimo, Petey Williams & and AJ Styles are just some names that come to mind that easily out perform any match you see on Raw or Smackdown week after week.
If you like mindless high flying spotfests, then yes... TNA has the better of that crap.
TNA actually has a real womans division with real womans wrestlers.
And it's the only worthwhile part of their show from a marketing standpoint, because it's the only part that people watch.
TNA actually has a tag division where tag teams stick together instead of being broke up on a constant basis. They also have, go figure, real feuds around the tag titles.
AMW? Triple X? 3 Live Kru? Dutt and Machismo? The WWE was actually trying to do a feud involving the tag titles with Cryme Tyme and DiBiase Jr & Rhodes, but you just shit on it regardless. Goes to show you that TNA marks are just that... marks.
The only thing that TNA doesnt have is a large budget, and let's be honest, that's what gives it a bad reputation among many wrestling fans. Especially our AD/HD generation who wont touch anything because "It doesn't flash a lot and have pretty lights."
Hey... quit trying to sound counter culture. The only fans that can claim that they watch a show that doesn't have "glitz and glamour" are former ECW fans and current ROH fans. TNA has pyro, TNA has onscreen graphics, and TNA has TWO... count em... TWO ramps. Not to mention the fact that TNA employs the guy that was doing the graphics in the WWF not even a few years ago, Dave Sahadi.
So yeah, stop trying to sound like your product is "underground" and "doesn't need the big production values" when it clearly uses close to, if not the same production value as the WWF.
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