TJ
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Post by TJ on Jul 16, 2011 11:12:23 GMT -5
As for the Bieber thing. The fact that I can appreciate that someone who looks, sounds, smells and acts like a dog might not actually be a dog doesn't mean I have mental issues. Also the fact that I can appreciate that just because someone who looks like a little girl, sounds like a little girl, smells like a little girl and acts like spoilt child star might not actually be a little girl at all. Sounds like Mainer's been near playgrounds again.... |
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Jul 16, 2011 11:31:02 GMT -5
Nice to see CP has turned into a full-time troll. Classic ACW response!!! |
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jul 16, 2011 11:56:28 GMT -5
As for the Bieber thing. The fact that I can appreciate that someone who looks, sounds, smells and acts like a dog might not actually be a dog doesn't mean I have mental issues. Also the fact that I can appreciate that just because someone who looks like a little girl, sounds like a little girl, smells like a little girl and acts like spoilt child star might not actually be a little girl at all. Sounds like Mainer's been near playgrounds again.... Age is but a number, my dear TJ. Much in the same way that my prison cell is just a room. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2011 12:02:25 GMT -5
Sounds like Mainer's been near playgrounds again.... Age is but a number, my dear TJ. Much in the same way that my prison cell is just a room. If there is grass on the field, play ball. |
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Post by Dan White on Jul 16, 2011 14:29:57 GMT -5
Right I've got an important issue to address. If we are going to do this properly, I assume results need to be "calced" as they were in the past, for competitive matches. How should this be done?
Having access to the mod boards I do know that individual talent was important in the calcs, as were a lot of things. But to me it shouldn't just be about who can write the better 1000 word RP, but who can write in relation to feuds, the relevancy within the fed, and also the effort. If a dude is writing his heart out every time there's a show but isn't very good, compared to a guy who is clearly talented but doesn't put the effort in, the guy that puts the effort in should be considered for the win. That's something ACW was built on and I think it should be considered.
I'm proposing that one night this week a number of us get online, be it on AIM, MSN or on the Chat, and properly iron out the details. Only so much can be said over a message board with fast answers.
Sooooo how about Monday night? I think 11pm UK time is about 6pm US time if that's okay with those on the other side of the pond.
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Post by Dan White on Jul 16, 2011 14:55:27 GMT -5
I've also edited the boards a little so everything you needed from the old ACW (shows, PPVs, Profiles) should still be there but I'm also making new profile boards and will make a new show board once we've sorted every detail out.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2011 15:02:02 GMT -5
I've also edited the boards a little so everything you needed from the old ACW (shows, PPVs, Profiles) should still be there but I'm also making new profile boards and will make a new show board once we've sorted every detail out. Nice move. I would move the HoF to "Miscellaneous" and later, I would put all existing profiles in the main archive board into graveyard if they were "so-so" or into the Retirement home if they were memorable. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2011 15:04:25 GMT -5
Right I've got an important issue to address. If we are going to do this properly, I assume results need to be "calced" as they were in the past, for competitive matches. How should this be done? Having access to the mod boards I do know that individual talent was important in the calcs, as were a lot of things. But to me it shouldn't just be about who can write the better 1000 word RP, but who can write in relation to feuds, the relevancy within the fed, and also the effort. If a dude is writing his heart out every time there's a show but isn't very good, compared to a guy who is clearly talented but doesn't put the effort in, the guy that puts the effort in should be considered for the win. That's something ACW was built on and I think it should be considered. I'm proposing that one night this week a number of us get online, be it on AIM, MSN or on the Chat, and properly iron out the details. Only so much can be said over a message board with fast answers. Sooooo how about Monday night? I think 11pm UK time is about 6pm US time if that's okay with those on the other side of the pond. I agree with your viewpoint on determining winners, and that is the style of system we should use. However, I adamantly argue that champions do not pick their own contenders. I no longer have MSN or AIM. I can do the chat on Monday. Personally, I would recommend Fallen Souls for calcing. |
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Post by Dan White on Jul 16, 2011 15:41:13 GMT -5
If he's up for it, sure. I'll get round to moving profiles periodically but you can only do it one at a time I think, which is a bit of a pain.
I do think what we need is a basic operation, and spread both the enjoyment and the responsibility. I don't think we need a mod team or anything like that, especially if this operation is small.
But I do think we need to take a page out of other fed's books and have things like a board to explain the non-wrestling NPCs, what the arena is like, what the general rules are, things like that. I'm going to think fairly outside the box now but if we were to try and advertise I don't think it would be inconceivable to perhaps locate to another board, if only to have a fresh slate as it were and not scare people off with 7(!) years of what is essentially clutter.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Jul 16, 2011 16:01:39 GMT -5
I will attempt to come to the chat on Monday night if that's decided, however it'll be a lot closer to 7 EST.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2011 16:06:41 GMT -5
If he's up for it, sure. I'll get round to moving profiles periodically but you can only do it one at a time I think, which is a bit of a pain. I do think what we need is a basic operation, and spread both the enjoyment and the responsibility. I don't think we need a mod team or anything like that, especially if this operation is small. But I do think we need to take a page out of other fed's books and have things like a board to explain the non-wrestling NPCs, what the arena is like, what the general rules are, things like that. I'm going to think fairly outside the box now but if we were to try and advertise I don't think it would be inconceivable to perhaps locate to another board, if only to have a fresh slate as it were and not scare people off with 7(!) years of what is essentially clutter. Yes, the ACW system really runs itself when it gets going. I really don't think we need a mod team here. We are all old enough to talk things out if there is a disagreement, and really, we can all just pitch in to take care of the "chores." We do need one calc person (someone we can all trust), one person to post the show, match writers and that's pretty much about it. Right now I think the federation is coming together pretty well out of character. My opinion on the recruitment stuff you wrote is that I really, sincerely doubt that we would get anyone new. I see the whole purpose of this being to keep something we all had in our lives going for one reason or another. Maybe you missed it. Maybe it made you happy. Maybe life doesn't seem right without ACW running. With all the comments, I can see that there is enough people willing to try to keep this going for whatever their motivations are, but I really don't see new blood coming. I am not in favor of a new board since this project, to me, is a life time reunion, but we'll see what others think. In character, we haven't done much. Besides calling this a reboot of Fallout, we haven't made up characters to run the fed, discussed where this federation is going to take place, make up an arena, etc. If nobody minds, I would like to take lead on this and sketch some things out and then put them out there for people to discuss/vote on. |
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Post by Dan White on Jul 16, 2011 16:09:53 GMT -5
Okay, I'm happy with that. I have a few ideas of my own but I know you will as well. I just don't think we should go down the "evil GM/Commissioner/owner" route >_>
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Post by El Shadowo on Jul 16, 2011 16:15:01 GMT -5
Gonna change the name of the topic just so its a bit clearer whats happening.
RE: Champs deciding their challangers. I wouldn't say they have no input in the decision who they face and feud with, given that it could mean working with someone long term. I do think there needs to be regular title matches though, instead of having months without proper calced title matches, and that the challangers should be decided in a decision where the champ and the bookers/challanger committee work together to decide who deserves the chances.
I'm also gonna say now that I've delibertly chosen a non-speaker as my character for a reason; I do not want to get bogged down writing massive amounts for ACW while neglecting my other projects. I'll be open and say I have no intentions of writing matches, but will write promos with people and contribute to feuds. I'd also be up for offering help on show posting and the likes. Its just I don't want to be in a position where I'm writing 8 pages of stuff thats going unread <_<
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TJ
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Post by TJ on Jul 16, 2011 16:20:12 GMT -5
Age is but a number, my dear TJ. Much in the same way that my prison cell is just a room. If there is grass on the field, play ball. And if there isn't, play in the mud |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 16, 2011 16:23:00 GMT -5
Gonna change the name of the topic just so its a bit clearer whats happening. RE: Champs deciding their challangers. I wouldn't say they have no input in the decision who they face and feud with, given that it could mean working with someone long term. I do think there needs to be regular title matches though, instead of having months without proper calced title matches, and that the challangers should be decided in a decision where the champ and the bookers/challanger committee work together to decide who deserves the chances. I'm also gonna say now that I've delibertly chosen a non-speaker as my character for a reason; I do not want to get bogged down writing massive amounts for ACW while neglecting my other projects. I'll be open and say I have no intentions of writing matches, but will write promos with people and contribute to feuds. I'd also be up for offering help on show posting and the likes. Its just I don't want to be in a position where I'm writing 8 pages of stuff thats going unread <_< Ah, this brings up old memories. I brought up a "championship committee" idea when this was a hot topic years ago. As part of my idea, I believe people would be able to work with whom they want, but if they are a title holder, they face the number one contender as named by the championship committee if they are not working with him/her. Yes, think would throw a monkey wrench in some people's feuds but I have always contended three responses to this: 1. If you are the champ, you SHOULD be facing the number one contender. 2. Good writers can overcome any difficulties a non-feud title match may cause, and could even work it to their advantage. 3. No plan is perfect, but rewarding talent and dedication, to me, is more important than rewarding long term planning. Also, I am with you, Dave. I am telling everyone now, I am not writing massive promos. Those days are gone. |
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