Jason Freeman
Competition Judge
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Post by Jason Freeman on Dec 11, 2009 23:19:25 GMT -5
Its just that with more divisions you get that feeling of YAY I got upper mid! And then if you work REALLY hard you get main event. It's goals to complete without having to win the world title, which only one person will be able to do at a time.
And the Entertainment belt has always seemed to me to be for people like Trent Wheeler, and Panther. People who are starting out with a long way to go but it gives them something to fight for. In a fully fleshed out division these people probably would not be winning the lower of the two titles (As of their current writing right now, not saying they won't eventually get ready for more), but giving them a lower of three titles allows them to actually fight for something, and it gives newcomers something to do, and people whose writing isnt exactly the best in the world.
If anything it will allow us to keep said people because they have an accessible title they can fight for. The International Championship is basically the people who are really having a lot of potential, and are almost ready for main event but not yet ready to be a world champion. And then of course the world title belt.
AT THE MOMENT, I agree we don't really have much bulk to the roster making this harder to do, and therefore I can see making it two for now, but if our roster gets back to normal I say the three titles are the way to go.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Dec 12, 2009 0:30:59 GMT -5
Thing is though, I see no reason why those guys couldn't compete. Right now it's like ho-hum, I really didn't do anything and got the title, if we make that division have fifteen people in it it becomes a massive accomplishment. It brings the belt AND NOT THE RANK the prestige. If this was the situation, I would not have dropped the belt when I did, but would have looked to absolutely clean out the division because that would have actually been an accomplishment. Nothing against VorteX either, but his reign is nearing Kudo's in length and it hasn't been as spectacular as there really hasn't be anyone stepping up to take the strap. That problem is non existent with two divisions. He'd be fighting people like Smart, Mainer, Rena and others for the belt.
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TJ
Experienced Member
I LOVE DAN WHITE
Good, you're working out Freeman....you're gonna need to
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Post by TJ on Dec 12, 2009 0:33:39 GMT -5
I'm TJ an I support the idea of two divisions and a rp idea since back on page UNO I said we should have one for in character interaction. And while I do fall into the catogory tex talked about I had to take that break our my work would have severly suffered and my ego wouldn't be able to take that
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Post by The Senator on Dec 12, 2009 2:26:24 GMT -5
Condensing the ranks is practically mandatory at this point, I would say. There's a lot of positive reasons to do so, and few reasons not to.
If, nay, when we decide to advertize and reach out, let's try looking for less traditional spots to snatch new writers. We might end up with a lot of people who don't know much about wrestling, but we can educate them in good time...and I can make their movesets.
As for a championship committee, my candidates follow as such:
Jose Sulaiman Don King Sepp Blatter Kofi Annan Earl Hebner Franchi$e Thorbjorn Jagland Roger Goodell R. William Jones Tim Donaghy Rod Blagojevich
I think that bunch should be well qualified to pick out contenders:)
Seriously, though, I think it's a fine idea that deserves a good long consideration.
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Post by worldbreaker on Dec 12, 2009 2:42:54 GMT -5
[/li][li] Introduction of a “Championship Committee”[/size][/quote] HOLY SHIT BATMAN WHERE ON EARTH DID THIS IDEA EVER COME FROM?!
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criminal
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Ohh that was ur girl... I thought i reconized her!!
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Post by criminal on Dec 12, 2009 5:14:05 GMT -5
I say we just get some video cameras, and a radio system, along with a ring... and bring ACW to real life...sounds like the only solution
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Post by Dan White on Dec 12, 2009 6:18:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't warm to a Championship Committee, just my opinion. To me if you have a title you're perfectly entitled to defend it against whoever you want.
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Post by El Shadowo on Dec 12, 2009 6:29:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't warm to a Championship Committee, just my opinion. To me if you have a title you're perfectly entitled to defend it against whoever you want. Kind of agree, though maybe instead of a committee, it would be easier to just have the mods ok it? Otherwise you could potentially have a champ who deliberatly picks weaker opponents. I don't think you need a special group for it though. I don't know what way the mods board works, but surely if the champs proposed their next challangers after every PPV, a topic could be made where the mods could ok everything?
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Post by Bre Dubs on Dec 12, 2009 7:40:20 GMT -5
I was just checking out the old fed and stumbled upon this.
So... I have a few ideas that might help.
Consolidation:
Good start on consolidating to one show. But I ask,
- why are there 5 Matches on the most recent show?? On the weekly shows as far as I remember, the only match anyone might have cared about was the main event and another match. You don't read the weeklies for the matches, you read it for segs. Someone wasting time on writing a TV match is time they could use to write something much more important. Keep most matches saved for the monthly shows.
-Move to 3-4 matches a show, people r/p for their PPV match, not their weekly match. Also, let those that wouldn't Main Event a PPV Main a TV Show, its a morale booster and a change of pace. Looking at the last couple shows, you have TK vs. Shadow, Shadow vs. Phillips, let those main a monthly show and have a match like... Vortex vs. Trent Wheeler be the main on a weekly show, for example.
- I saw it already suggested but i'll repeat it, cut down to the Entertainment(more interesting name than International) and World belts. Hate to see the tag belts go, but if there aren't enough guys there aren't enough guys. You might also consider different rules for the belts, to make it interesting. Also, 2 or 3 divisions is a good idea, either one will work IMO. I wouldn't ditch it entirely because it can be helpful to know where you stand as a writer.
-And of course, if the fed gets bigger again, you add more divisions and shows and matches
2. Let new blood take the reigns
-As far as I'm aware, I don't think there has been anyone in a mod position that came in around or AFTER the time I came in. Thats a looong time of the same basic people at the top. And you guys have shown to do a good job for the most part, but the newer guys have more motivation to make ACW great and make it their own, and they should get to MAKE IT THEIR OWN. If you want ACW to keep going it has to change with the times and change with the people in it. The older mods can also help any newer mods because they've dealt with situations that newer guys might not be prepared for.
ACW has been around for an eternity in efed time, new generations develop all the time, you can't have a generation from 4 or 5 generations ago not getting enough input from the current generation.(I'm not sure if i've written this for how i mean it to be taken, so if you don't like what i wrote here, disregard)
- Also, the mods or someone needs to hand hold the newest members. When someone joins, PM them and find out if they are having trouble finding someone to rp and if they are, GET THEM A PARTNER, once you are partnered up with someone you are IN THAT FED because you now have a commitment to yourself and your writing partner. Hell, always make sure that someone has a next thing lined up, because i'll tell you from experience that if it seems like no one wants to write with you, you have no incentive to keep writing.
-Speaking of hand holding the newest members, I don't even know how you get your first match anymore, and i used to rp here. I see a match request board, but the last time I was here, I remember match requests being frowned upon because of the amount of work going into matches for those that would leave immediately but considering weekly matches are mostly inconsequential anyway, may as well get the fresh blood involved quickly. If someone feels like they have to ask how to get their first match, they're going to feel intimidated and leave. You have to get the fresh blood comfortable immediately and in a habit, once you're in the habit of writing, you don't stop.
3. Legends show? WHY NOT!!?? It doesn't have to be an ACW ENDING show, it can just be a show highlighting eras of ACW gone by. Not only would it be fun, it shows the newest members what ACW is about, what they could potentially do and might get old people interested in coming back at least for a little while to help the newer guys.
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Post by worldbreaker on Dec 12, 2009 10:52:41 GMT -5
I hate to be a buzzkill but you guys realize we've had convos like this before. Many of them, in fact. At the end of the day it all boils down to talk, talk, talk and nothing changes.
Last call, boys. Order one last round for the table.
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Post by The Red Panther on Dec 12, 2009 10:52:55 GMT -5
I have only had one or two matches recently, so really I think we should keep the card size. However I agree, lower carded people should get the chance to main event every so often.
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Post by El Shadowo on Dec 12, 2009 10:59:17 GMT -5
TK, in all due fairness, I understand where you are coming from. But your posts are not really helping nor adding anything to the situation. So apologies if some of us are trying to work through the problem or at least discuss it, rather than throwing the towel in.....
If you think this is it for ACW, so be it. You've said it a few times now. We don't need constant reminders of that negative mindset though.
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Post by worldbreaker on Dec 12, 2009 11:05:28 GMT -5
It's better to go out with a bang than with a whimper.
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Post by Latino on Dec 12, 2009 11:10:19 GMT -5
Hello, my name is Latino, long time reader short time speller.
You guys are over thinking the issue here. ACW... well before it was even ACW, GFWCW started with barely anything. No comittees, no worries about when the next match was coming... just fun. It's obviously missing that and it's what I worked hard to ensure back in the day when I walked 15 miles to school back AND forth... in the snow... while fending off ill-tempered sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads.
Also, one good point I just read was hand holding the members. Anyone that was here how many of you remember me sending you the first instant message welcoming you, explaining everything to you, and introducing you to people. I may have done the hand holding but if anything it made you all more comfortable to stay and tough it out while you got used to everything.
ACW needs to go back to basics and just enjoy itself. Slim it down to one card, 3 titles and 4 matches if you want. As long as people are having fun and you keep that community alive they'll keep coming back.. not because they have to but they want too.
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Post by worldbreaker on Dec 12, 2009 11:14:05 GMT -5
Also, one good point I just read was hand holding the members. Anyone that was here how many of you remember me sending you the first instant message welcoming you, explaining everything to you, and introducing you to people. I may have done the hand holding but if anything it made you all more comfortable to stay and tough it out while you got used to everything. ACW needs to go back to basics and just enjoy itself. Slim it down to one card, 3 titles and 4 matches if you want. As long as people are having fun and you keep that community alive they'll keep coming back.. not because they have to but they want too. Yeah, well here is the problem Latino. We average like one new person every six months. It's hard to hold hands when nobody will join. Also, it IS one card with around 4 matches and three titles.
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