TJ
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Post by TJ on Sept 20, 2009 15:09:08 GMT -5
I would just like to say that you can most certainly do one show per week and six PPV's a year and have it be interesting. I know because I lived that era. When the wrestling boom happened in the 90's, thats when they saturated the market. Well guess what? That market isn't as big anymore and that's why buyrates are very low. This is a very good idea to go back to a recession type PPV/show system. I think this is in response to my post, but if not, I'll respond anyways. Its too much of a decline, plus that era had supercards if I'm right, I'll have to check that. We could do optional supercards. Like at the end of a PPV or before a month that a supercard would take place, we vote to see if we really need it.
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Post by The Red Panther on Sept 20, 2009 15:27:37 GMT -5
IMO:
January: Seven Deadly Sins February: Supercard March: Fallenheros April: Supercard May: Supercard June: Omega Effect July: Supercard August: Genocide September: Supercard October: Ragnarok November: Supercard December: Winters Discontent
I moved Ragnarok because IIRC the main event is normaly a big tag match, that can't really be set up in a month without it being thrown together. I replaced Heatwave with Genocide because Heatwave sucks dirty asshole TBH.
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Post by jonnyomega on Sept 20, 2009 17:36:28 GMT -5
I fully support this idea and I think the schedule posted by Zero is the best solution.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 20, 2009 19:52:01 GMT -5
Also - Dan, why would you want to keep the Champion-named PPV? If anything, that would be my first to drop. -_-
Cos it's fun and different.
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 23:30:05 GMT -5
I love emperor of the ring, I say I say it should stay, but if it doesnt, it should be used then as one of the supercards, kinda like recently WWE has been doing King of the Ring as a three hour special Best typo EVER! Jason Foghorn Leghorn I SAY, I SAY... I LOVE THIS HEAUH PAY-PER-VIEW!
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 23:34:06 GMT -5
Also - Dan, why would you want to keep the Champion-named PPV? If anything, that would be my first to drop. -_- Cos it's fun and different. You know what? If it's so fun, let's do it EVERY OTHER MONTH with supercard names, but let's allow the PEOPLE to vote on the name rather than a champion who wants to be a dictator and force his inside jokes down the throat of everyone involved.
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Post by rep on Sept 20, 2009 23:43:25 GMT -5
PPV Events Supercard Events
January: Ragnarok February: Supercard March: Fallen Heros April: Supercard May: Supercard June: Omega Effect July: Supercard August: Genocide/Heatwave/Two week break? September: Supercard October: Seven Deadly Sins November: Supercard December: Supercard
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I put Seven Deadly Sins back in October, i think the October fit is just perfect. I've taken in to account JDM's problem with the build up for the main event and scrapped a December Pay-Per-View to make time for Ragnarok in January. Ragnarok could become an event nearly on par with OE because of the huge match and build up time.
I listed Heatwave and Genocide on the same line because there seems to be a debate about whether or not to scrap Heatwave. While it is a rip off, it is apparently one of the bigger events. So I'll leave that up for you to decide. There is a second option, we could scrap both however, and in it's place, have a summer break (if you really want it that bad).
This plan would be very barebones, but that's what we should be going for. The PPVs can be on level with the excitement factor that we usually have with OE, since they're becoming more rare. The supercards can be treated as good sized events, but the PPVs should be the all time end of the world vibe. Plus I don't think there's a bad name listed on this draft.
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Post by rep on Sept 21, 2009 2:09:08 GMT -5
We should really get a committee started for these types of things. Anyone who has any problems or ideas on how to improve anything in the fed would go to someone from the committee, and the committee would write up a proposal or a bill and present it to the admins. I'd definitely get in to something like that. The people in the committee don't have to be given any powers over regular members... maybe just their own subboard to post the proposals and whatnot.
This committee could run the supercard name voting and this sort of thing. We could lighten up the administrative load so they can become the top deciders on the issues.
Let's make ACW an interactive democracy.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 21, 2009 10:43:12 GMT -5
Just a thought. What is so wrong about having 4 shows a month and then a PPV anyways? I always thought that dropping a show would still allow us to have a PPV a month. I don't think anybody is going to treat PPVs and Supercards differently anyways. Essentially it's going to be like the WWF used to do, in that they still had 12 PPVs a year, only whilst some were the big PPVs, the others were the cheaper, In Your House PPVs.
And for the record, I never thought Heatwave was a big PPV. I treated Winter's Discontent as our second biggest PPV, because it was equidisient between the former and next Omega Effect. I suppose that could be changed to Ragnarok, but I still think we should have a PPV in December to wrap up the year, even if that means moving Ragnarok to December.
Surely the guy with the World title deserves it.
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Post by The Red Panther on Sept 21, 2009 10:44:02 GMT -5
I think Reps schedule is the best idea. IMO scrap Heatwave and come up with something new and origional.
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Post by Jack Jefferson on Sept 21, 2009 11:14:38 GMT -5
Having a PPV every month would be ridiculous with one show every week, there'd be no time to sufficiently build up to PPV matches.
For me, Supercards would be more for matches with the potential to continue a feud and title matches.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Sept 21, 2009 13:13:28 GMT -5
I think there definitely still needs to be a post OE break and a December break with a December PPV right before it
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Post by Rena on Sept 21, 2009 13:23:28 GMT -5
I have always thought Heatwave was such a cliché name for a summer PPV, honestly. This may sound odd, but I'm beginning to embrace and really appreciate Rep's proposed vision for ACW. If there is a committee I would like to be on it.
I am not happy that Winter's Discontent is missing, as I agree with Dan. Not only does it seem to be our second largest PPV, I actually love the name and think it's perfect for a winter PPV. I like the idea of Supercards, and I suggest that one of the supercards be the result of the Chairman of the Day battle royal. Perhaps in November.
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Post by rep on Sept 21, 2009 13:34:31 GMT -5
Just a thought. What is so wrong about having 4 shows a month and then a PPV anyways? I always thought that dropping a show would still allow us to have a PPV a month. I don't think anybody is going to treat PPVs and Supercards differently anyways. Essentially it's going to be like the WWF used to do, in that they still had 12 PPVs a year, only whilst some were the big PPVs, the others were the cheaper, In Your House PPVs. And for the record, I never thought Heatwave was a big PPV. I treated Winter's Discontent as our second biggest PPV, because it was equidisient between the former and next Omega Effect. I suppose that could be changed to Ragnarok, but I still think we should have a PPV in December to wrap up the year, even if that means moving Ragnarok to December. Surely the guy with the World title deserves it. Having a PPV in December would screw up the buildup for the Ragnarok match. The flow of PPV to Supercard is perfectly fine as listed, adding another PPV would be a pretty big compromise. And that's a very selfish thing to say on the November PPV name argument. Why would you be against the public naming the events? If anything, when naming the event is up to one person it will almost always be a stupid inside joke that has nothing to do with ACW in character. With the supercards, people will vote for the name, so no one can really complain about a shitty name. If there's a name you really like that didn't make the cut, propose it to be used for a Supercard when the time comes. Until then, I think the last draft is what we should be using.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 21, 2009 13:43:51 GMT -5
Well then I propose we remove Ragnarok, then. Really, in the last couple of years it's been seldom used for its purpose (Survivor Series-style) and it would mean that we could have a big Feb PPV. You say that FH is in March, but I really don't think we need a 3-month build up for OE. 2 months is fine, especially if you consider that one month is an equinox in the e-fed world.
My proposed changes:
January: Supercard February: PPV (Could perhaps be the Ragnarok PPV) March: Supercard April: Fallen Heroes May: Supercard June: Omega Effect July: Supercard August: PPV (Heatwave/Genocide) September: Supercard October: PPV (7 Deadly Sins/Samhain) November: Supercard December: PPV (Winter Discontent?)
Gives every PPV a potential two-month build up, plus a lot of the names can be fit in to suit everybody. It gives each Supercard a purpose of not only being a big event in itself, but also the waterbreak in said potential two-month feuds.
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