VorteX
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Post by VorteX on Sept 18, 2009 18:31:27 GMT -5
Other than BK leaving and Steele being banned, I'm not sure much has changed around here since you left the first time TK. Regardless of if Taylor had a problem with BK or not he asked to be banned and so he was.
The problem with unbanning Taylor is he will NOT stay just to his profile and will inevitably do something stupid to cause drama. Also if you bring Taylor back as others have said you would have to bring Steele back as well because they share a common link in that they both dislike BK.
I for one want to see neither back anytime soon as things have been a LOT nicer with both of them gone. Sure we may have lost a few contributers to the show, but the exchange is no OOC headache. That's a huge exchange.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 18, 2009 18:34:16 GMT -5
I never really thought Taylor did anything particularly bad other than leave for SLA and then leave like 3-4 more times >_>. Since the situation surrounding his ban in 2008, he has been no worse than others. That said, I'm not going to kick up a fuss if he was unbanned.
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Post by worldbreaker on Sept 18, 2009 19:25:45 GMT -5
Other than BK leaving and Steele being banned, I'm not sure much has changed around here since you left the first time TK. Um, hello? Thats a huge change and exactly my point. The problem with unbanning Taylor is he will NOT stay just to his profile and will inevitably do something stupid to cause drama. That is being extremely judgemental. I for one want to see neither back anytime soon as things have been a LOT nicer with both of them gone. Sure we may have lost a few contributers to the show, but the exchange is no OOC headache. That's a huge exchange. Yes Vortex, we have had NO OOC headaches recently and it's all because of Jon Taylor being gone. /sarcasim. |
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Post by BAWSE Train on Sept 18, 2009 19:59:53 GMT -5
As long as Taylor isn't encouraged by Freeman to say things nothing will happen.
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Post by VorteX on Sept 18, 2009 20:06:32 GMT -5
Um, hello? Thats a huge change and exactly my point. The whole BK 'corruption' crap is debatable, so I'm not going further with that as I've never experienced it (if it exists). That is being extremely judgemental. What I said is a fact not judgment. It would be different if this is the first problem this fed has had with Taylor, which is simply not the case. Yes Vortex, we have had NO OOC headaches recently and it's all because of Jon Taylor being gone. /sarcasim. Apparently you missed the word both. I'm lumping Steele in here also as he has also been known to create massive flame wars over nothing. My point is, ACW doesn't need more drama at the moment. In order to ensure this leaving both of them banned is the best possible option. |
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Post by worldbreaker on Sept 18, 2009 20:17:17 GMT -5
Yeah, you know Vortex, this is the part where you turn me off with your snobby little elitist attitude and tell you to go fuck yourself.
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Post by rep on Sept 18, 2009 20:20:12 GMT -5
If this thing about Taylor wanting to be banned is true, I don't think he should be let back unless his writing has improved massively (not to say that his writing sucked, but unless he's going to add amazing writing to the shows I don't see a point in character ways)
I strongly believe that we need to loosen up a little bit around here what with the punishments and bannings. Let's be honest for a minute here... we're all just a bunch of losers with too much free time on their hands. If we were really as cool as we claim, we wouldn't be pretending to be wrestlers or getting in to internet squabbles.
I don't see getting in to online arguments as a sin or a detriment to anything. We're just wasting some of our extra time when bored, and having a little fun while we do it. Some of us like to do it with writing, and some of us finish our writing and have nothing else to do, so we turn to the OOC boards. We start up a little shit, and at the end of the day it means nothing. We haven't harmed anyone. We're not destroying anything. Anyone who doesn't like the little fights should stay away at all costs. Those who do, good for you. Those who don't, you're only making it worse for those of us who have fun winding people up.
So at the end of the day, I think we should break off "OOC" discussion in to an entirely different message board. Keep the ACW OOC talk here, like the feedback or the discussion ABOUT ACW. Move the wrestling/music/etc discussion over to a different board, because that's where the fights begin and apparently they're distracting. Make them invisible.
I think Steele should be unbanned. I think anyone who has been banned should be unbanned. Let's start over. This is a silly game and we're getting even sillier when we hand out punishments like they actually mean something.
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Post by VorteX on Sept 18, 2009 20:29:10 GMT -5
Yeah, you know Vortex, this is the part where you turn me off with your snobby little elitist attitude and tell you to go fuck yourself. Mature. I don't see getting in to online arguments as a sin or a detriment to anything. We're just wasting some of our extra time when bored, and having a little fun while we do it. Some of us like to do it with writing, and some of us finish our writing and have nothing else to do, so we turn to the OOC boards. We start up a little shit, and at the end of the day it means nothing. We haven't harmed anyone. We're not destroying anything. Anyone who doesn't like the little fights should stay away at all costs. Those who do, good for you. Those who don't, you're only making it worse for those of us who have fun winding people up. This makes no logical sense whatsoever. So you are admitting to purposely starting flame wars for fun? How about instead of those who don't like seeing them 'stay away', those who enjoy starting them for no reason at all do it somewhere else. This is the exact reason why Steele should remained banned...he was doing nothing (at the end) but starting pointless flame wars. |
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Post by rep on Sept 18, 2009 20:30:57 GMT -5
All I'm saying is, if you don't like seeing flamewars, stop getting involved in them... like you are right now, Mr. beacon of logic.
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Post by VorteX on Sept 18, 2009 20:37:26 GMT -5
Last time I checked, this isn't a flame war. I will agree that the usefulness of this topic has pretty much reached it's limit though.
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Post by rep on Sept 18, 2009 20:44:17 GMT -5
Miraculously, this isn't a flamewar? Yet disagreements that are far more tame than this are labeled as such.
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Post by Dan White on Sept 18, 2009 20:46:39 GMT -5
LOOK
People are banned. There's a reason they're banned. I think this topic may have addressed the situation that there are some of us that would like people unbanned, but at the same time there are people that feel the opposite. The mods (who, remember, made these decisions) have had their say, and if these individuals are going to get unbanned, then it's up to the mods.
Please, let's not turn this into a 7-page argument. Let's just cool it from now on.
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Post by rep on Sept 18, 2009 20:48:23 GMT -5
I just got in to this dude. I have at least ten pages in me.
But I'm not lobbying to get a particular person banned, I just think that this is all very silly.
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Post by El Shadowo on Sept 19, 2009 4:39:10 GMT -5
My two cents...
I like Taylor. Got on well with him. And outside of a few incidents, I've never had any problems with Jake at all. At the same time, I'm of the opinion that a banning should be permanant.
There's not much you can do to actually punish people for wrong-doings on internet boards like this. If banning can be seen to only be temporary, then what can be done to repeat offenders? There needs to be an ultimate punishment and banning is it.
That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read, but unfortunatly, it sums up my entire problem with you :/ I know on a recent radio show, you said you messed up CIW for fun. It wasn't "fun" for me. In fact, it was incredibly upsetting. I put so much effort into creating something which you ruined. And why? Cause you were bored?
If you really want to troll for fun or "for the lulz", if you want to start up shit, then go to one of the other boards out there and do it there. But I really think that that is an absolutly horrible attitude to have, cause your "fun" ruins the fun of a lot of other people.
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Post by rep on Sept 19, 2009 5:51:35 GMT -5
Waaah.
You're coming off like you take the internet too seriously, Dave. It's a game, and to chastise people for saying something that someone SUBJECTIVELY (because you people love the word subjective so much, I'll use it against you) found to be offensive, is overkill.
I wasn't aware that you had a problem with me. Now that I'm aware, I can go on not caring about it. To be frank, and with all due respect, I don't care. I really don't. I never had a personal problem with you, you never really offended me with anything. You do have some personality traits that make you an easy target, as we all do.
Being bored was not the only reason why we invaded CIW. There were a group of us that were upset about the faulty closing of GWF, and we wanted some type of revenge. Childish? Yes. Invigorating? Hell yes.
I've never claimed to be a grown up. I've spoken to very old people who say that they still feel that the core of their personality is the same as it was 20 years ago. Some of us just enjoy juvenile humor. You may not like it, but I find it funny... with the reigns pulled back at certain times. When it gets to the point where someone will get in to a ban situation, it should be pulled back and dormant until it blows over, but it will always be there, long until after I ride off in to the sunset.
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