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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 6, 2013 4:13:40 GMT -5
I think you need to chill out and listen to this.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 6, 2013 16:32:44 GMT -5
"ultra." So wanting to support your people, culture and heritage is now makes you "ultra." I would be upset at you, Mainer. I would be upset on your last post to me, which you erased and I saw, but I cannot. You are a product of a massive "reeducation" movement that began over 60 years ago. I can only hope that you live to be a very old age and you take a look at your merry ol' England and mutter the following, "that asshole on the internet was such a nut." See, I want to be wrong - but I know I won't be. I still wish upon you old age but you'll be thinking this as you go to your grave, "I should have done something."
One of my favorite things is when someone retorts to me, "you know, it's 2013." I smile, nod my head, and respond with a simple, "believe me, I know."
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 8, 2013 23:07:46 GMT -5
"ultra." So wanting to support your people, culture and heritage is now makes you "ultra." I would be upset at you, Mainer. I would be upset on your last post to me, which you erased and I saw, but I cannot. You are a product of a massive "reeducation" movement that began over 60 years ago. I can only hope that you live to be a very old age and you take a look at your merry ol' England and mutter the following, "that asshole on the internet was such a nut." See, I want to be wrong - but I know I won't be. I still wish upon you old age but you'll be thinking this as you go to your grave, "I should have done something." One of my favorite things is when someone retorts to me, "you know, it's 2013." I smile, nod my head, and respond with a simple, "believe me, I know." -The "You're indoctrinated" argument is one that you always present to me when I've made a point that you can not provide any measure of rationale or facts to rebutt. You're not over 60 years old, by your logic you should be just as indoctrinated as I am. What makes you different? Because you've read posts on the internet made by right-wing cranks who are trying to manipulate you into a white supremacist agenda? Let's be honest, we're all being manipulated here no matter what side of the fence you sit on. There's no "just cause free of self-interest" in this whether you're me, you, or spinnin' plates Jason Freeman over there. -I'm not a social democrat hipster with high hopes for integration. In the discussions we've had, it might come across that way when I've talked about the failings of integrating people into our society but that's not me saying we should do more. That's me saying we should keep societies separate and enjoy a cultural identity and not feel the need to make others included. I've always been a firm believer in cultural identity, provided that it doesn't lead to gross chauvanism and warring. I'm not a supremacist, I'm an isolationist. Let me get on with my shit and you can get on with yours, stop trying to invade my country, get your fucking hand out the cookie jar you fucking French. Fuck off. -England has always been a multi-cultural country (I can picture you groaning at this point and going "Oh here we go"), LONG before the 20th and 21st century and the advent of boats and planes and Bildeberger New World Order conspiracy theories. We didn't evolve here as a race of pure-bred White Aryan awesome. We had Romans and Normans and French and Vikings fucking around and looting and polluting the place across the millenia. Our "bloodline" is so polluted with foreign invaders that if you were to do a couple of hours of research into Great British history, you'd probably be physically ill. On that front, America, a nation that was built on immigration is truly in no position to comment. The only "pure bred" Americans, your ancestors (which is partly us, partly Dutch, Spanish and French who as we've already established have a filthy dirty tainted bloodline ew gross yucky) shoved onto reserves. -Do I think that immigration is a problem? Yes. Do I think there's a massive conspiracy to upset the world's finances? It's crazy, but we live in a shithouse planet and I wouldn't put it past some people to do that. I'm not denying that this is a possibility. Do I think something should be done about immigration? Yeah, absolutely. Christ alive though, I'd MUCH rather live in a world run by foreign loving lefties and mixed raced babies, making fat money off our back but letting us just chill the fuck out and do what we want for the security rather than some totalitarian fascist state where ethnic groups that aren't mine (or maybe are, depending on who's in charge) are being carted off for execution. -I know one of your major concerns which I just touched upon is that whites are "dying out". This is true. This is because our society is becoming increasingly career minded in Western Society, women's lib movements are working towards making women more successful and as a result our population is aging. This is fucking retarded and is going to kill our species quicker than mixed-race British kids. I get that you're concerned about the preservation about the white race, that's fine. I would be too. The thing is though, mixing races isn't anywhere near as big a problem as you're making it out to be. Yes, it's becoming increasingly more common as society stops frowning about this shit but at the end of the day, you can't dictate who's going to spunk in who. We're not policing relationships, that's absurd. And nobody's doing it because it's "the cool thing to do". Nobody is going to say "Alright whitey, go out and conceive foreign man's baby. The government demands it". That's a preposterous argument. The reason that the percentage of white people in the world is falling is because we're having less kids than other races because we're becoming more career orientated, not because of people dating out of their race. I can't believe sometimes that this is the same man who showed me Airi and Meiri and Yinling JOYTOY. -You tell me that I should stand up and act and do something about it as if I'm in any position to do so. That I need to "fight" this conspiracy, as if you or I are doing anything. What's signing up to StormFront going to do besides potentially jeopardise my career? Make me angry at how fucking utterly disgusting some humans can be? Some of your theory Kenny, I find perfectly agreeable. What I laugh at when we talk but I'm genuinely starting to think you were serious about, is not such much that we're a superior race but rather other ones are inferior, typecasting an entire race because of a cluster of their culture who decide to cause trouble (as there is in every society). I mean, man, go play a Grand Theft Auto game. Go play The Getaway, go watch any action movie ever. There's an organised crime syndicate for pretty much every race, colour and creed you can imagine. Crime and poor attitudes towards education isn't a black problem or a Chinese problem or a white problem, it's a societal problem caused by amongst other things, forced integration and a sense of non-belonging. Could you imagine what would happen if you took white kids and threw them into Chinese schools where they were a minority in a completely different culture? They'd either be just as horrendously ill-disciplined, or they'd say fuck all because dat dictatorship government. The problem is we're trying to make these people integrate with us and changing who we are and our values because of it which makes everything awkward and cagey, we're trying to pretend everyone's the same and we're not and it's ridiculous. It's not because they're a lower species that this happens. -Honestly, I'm not saying your entire argument doesn't have merit and yes, I can and will subject you to a little bit of mockery for it. Lord knows we've had that kind of a relationship over the years where we've felt comfortable with a bit of ribbing. But, I think you have a tendency to overreact a little and blow up problems and assume Doomsday scenarios. 2012, the Mayan Calendar, you were scaring us all shitless with stories about Planet X and how floods were going to drown everyone unless you were 500 feet underneath a mountain. I genuinely don't know when you're being serious or not sometimes and sometimes I sit and wonder if you're actually the world's greatest troll or so caught up it your own self-perpetuating fear-mongering that you lose sight of the angles you take and trip over your own wires. I fully expect a "You're brain-washed" answer to this, but if you can reply to my points individually and give some reasonable theory to it then I'd be far more likely to find what you say agreeable.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 9, 2013 0:02:39 GMT -5
-The "You're indoctrinated" argument is one that you always present to me when I've made a point that you can not provide any measure of rationale or facts to rebutt. You're not over 60 years old, by your logic you should be just as indoctrinated as I am. What makes you different? Because you've read posts on the internet made by right-wing cranks who are trying to manipulate you into a white supremacist agenda? Let's be honest, we're all being manipulated here no matter what side of the fence you sit on. There's no "just cause free of self-interest" in this whether you're me, you, or spinnin' plates Jason Freeman over there. The average person has been brainwashed and they don't even know it. Most television shows have writing teams in them with an axe to grind and they do so with their liberal pens. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Propaganda:_The_True_Hollywood_Story_of_How_the_Left_Took_Over_Your_TVThen we have kids that go to college and are told on the first day this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm2_6vcUNWgThis is just two examples out many. Don't even get me started on advertising. All that shit is subliminal, and all you have to do is take a step back and start noticing who is cast in commercials and what their respective roles are and you start to see "it." -I'm not a social democrat hipster with high hopes for integration. In the discussions we've had, it might come across that way when I've talked about the failings of integrating people into our society but that's not me saying we should do more. That's me saying we should keep societies separate and enjoy a cultural identity and not feel the need to make others included. I've always been a firm believer in cultural identity, provided that it doesn't lead to gross chauvanism and warring. I'm not a supremacist, I'm an isolationist. Let me get on with my shit and you can get on with yours, stop trying to invade my country, get your fucking hand out the cookie jar you fucking French. Fuck off. That is all fine and well. Bravo. I agree much in the same as I have told you, repeatedly, that I believe in the right to self-determination. Every race and culture should have this right. -England has always been a multi-cultural country (I can picture you groaning at this point and going "Oh here we go"), LONG before the 20th and 21st century and the advent of boats and planes and Bildeberger New World Order conspiracy theories. We didn't evolve here as a race of pure-bred White Aryan awesome. We had Romans and Normans and French and Vikings fucking around and looting and polluting the place across the millenia. Our "bloodline" is so polluted with foreign invaders that if you were to do a couple of hours of research into Great British history, you'd probably be physically ill. On that front, America, a nation that was built on immigration is truly in no position to comment. The only "pure bred" Americans, your ancestors (which is partly us, partly Dutch, Spanish and French who as we've already established have a filthy dirty tainted bloodline ew gross yucky) shoved onto reserves. Yeah, fuck that first sentence. You were right on my response and it is just fucking insane and thrust into your head by Marxists and you spew it back in an effort to show you are "progressive" and "forward thinking." Just like America. Fuck that whole "melting pot" bullshit. Fact is, yes, we were a melting pot of nationalities, but all from the same continent for nearly 200 years. It wasn't until 1965 when a member of Freeman's people and Ted Fucking Kennedy passed the immigration act under a lie that it would NOT change the demographics of this country. Since that time, the Marxists in academia have all the new freshmen thinking this was supposed to be what America was, is and will forever be. Sadly, every passing incoming generation has no understanding of what American life was before them and are beginning to except this currently reality as "normal." I like this video, it sums up the Marxist's tactics and what has been used against me and you: That is all the time I have to respond now, but I will touch on one of your point about woman's lib. Yes, I agree with your points and will concede that it has severely damaged the advancement of our people. By the way, the entire woman's lib movement was supported and funded by "them" so they could finally tax the other half of America. And it won because as always, altruism will be the downfall of the weak minded.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 11, 2013 8:23:54 GMT -5
Kenny, today I saw something in town which completely reaffirmed why I refuse to associate with white nationalist groups.
I was on the bus back home after a long day of being made to jump through hoops by passport control when I saw graffiti on an inner-city pub wall that said "IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE WHITE".
While yes, the author makes a very valid point that indeed it isn't a criminal offence to be white, IT IS a criminal offence to vandalise walls. This kind of idiocy is why nobody takes these movements seriously.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 11, 2013 22:11:01 GMT -5
Ignore the statistically higher crime rates by non-white groups. Scorn the nationalist for his crime of tagging ... a pub wall.Makes sense. Also, sorry we do not have access to the media to get our message out. Six companies own most of the world's media and they are against our message because they love cheap labor.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 12, 2013 2:49:33 GMT -5
Ignore the statistically higher crime rates by non-white groups. Scorn the nationalist for his crime of tagging ... a pub wall.Makes sense. Also, sorry we do not have access to the media to get our message out. Six companies own most of the world's media and they are against our message because they love cheap labor. There's a lot of reasons why this might be the case. For a start, have you tried living life as an ethnic minority in a country with a majority white police? I've seen maybe two or three non-white cops (Asians) up near where I live. They're not common. Yes, there'll be exceptions but the vast majority of these cops are white and as studies have proven, we look after our own, and there's a hell of a lot of evidence to show that the police can and will be corrupt and racist as fuck. One of my closest friends is an officer of the law and God only knows, conversation with him makes Tommy Robinson sound like Karl Marx. Even your good man Ramzpaul accepts this and has a video about it. (PS, I like his videos. He's quite entertaining to watch but way off on some points). Heterogeneous areas tend to have higher crime rates as opposed to homorogeneous ones. Again, this doesn't mean that non-whites are causing the crime, it's making these people live together in shared environments that cause the problems. The Social Control Theory states that people who lack connections to their social environment are more likely to coommit crime. Furthermore, studies show that conviction rates are higher amongst blacks because juries are more likely to convict a black defendant by racial bias. Add to this that there's a number of studies that also say that there's racial bias in jury selection leading to a higher percentage of whites on juries, especially on death penalty offences and things start to add up. Finally, economic imbalance creates crime. You're far more likely to commit crime if you're poor, uneducated, come from a broken home etc. There are more poor black people than poor whites. Ergo, more black crime. Every society has their bad eggs and integration amplifies the problem. There is a racial bias in the media, but there's more than just that which reinforces why nobody takes white nationalists seriously. A vast majority of them are aligned to supremacist thug groups and make their noise by rioting and stabbing non-whites. There's no educated, upper middle-class vanguard fielding this cause and if they are, they're usually supremacists who think they should be on a plantation.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 12, 2013 10:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by TJ on Jan 12, 2013 20:54:39 GMT -5
so many big words making my brain hurt. Did I read something about bratwurst?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 13, 2013 16:52:11 GMT -5
For a start, have you tried living life as an ethnic minority in a country with a majority white police? No and I never have any intentions of becoming a minority and that is why I have no intention in staying in this country for the remainder of my life. Myself nor my people were ever asked or cast a vote on the issue to make us a minority. Instead business, which runs this government, decided to partake in people replacement. Replace the Europeans and their culture with a third world person who beams at the thought of getting out of their mud hut. My nation is my people, period. I would never thrust myself upon another culture and then start making demands like what has transpired to the colonies and the homeland. I've seen maybe two or three non-white cops (Asians) up near where I live. They're not common. Good, that is not their homeland. Their homeland is Asia. Yes, there'll be exceptions but the vast majority of these cops are white and as studies have proven, we look after our own, and there's a hell of a lot of evidence to show that the police can and will be corrupt and racist as fuck. One of my closest friends is an officer of the law and God only knows, conversation with him makes Tommy Robinson sound like Karl Marx. Even your good man Ramzpaul accepts this and has a video about it. (PS, I like his videos. He's quite entertaining to watch but way off on some points). There is a good chance your friend has that mindset and that it is because he might deal with the issue every day while you continue to remain in your white neighborhood far from the problems. I do not know your friend. However, he should have feelings of what he sees with his eyes as being unnatural because it is. Regardless, we have this problem in America. Many liberals are people who will spout out that everyone needs to jump in the melting pot and we should thrust the doors open, yet these people heavily congregate behind their gated communities on the coasts far away from the hellholes of Detroit, "Chicongo," Saint Louis, and hell, most American cities. You, yourself, have admitted that you live in a still heavily populated white area. Why don't you go take a trip to South and East London and get back to me. Hell, if I had the money, I would fly you up here and drop you off in East Saint Louis and let you see the diversity project up close. I am heavily opinionated on this issue because I've lived with homogeneity and without it. I've walked the walk, have you? I also take exception to the issue that these officers, who have taken an oath to serve and protect, all are mean to your pets because we tend to look after our own and are *gasp* rayyyyyyycistttttt! Uh-Oh, the "R" word, the word that makes the white man shake in his boots! The scarlet letter of the 21st century! The word that has been embraced by the new religion of the land, secular humanism, and used to beat down any logical argument via the way of name calling. Want to beat down the white man's desire to protect his culture? Call him racist or Hitler, works wonders! Maybe the fault lies in your immigrants, Mainer, who come to a society and do not have the mental faculties to handle a Western education and result to criminal behavior to satisfy their envy? Also, back to your "we look after our own" point you made. Yes, yes we do. It is human nature. They did a study on babies. They put they babies of all colors in a room and guess what happened? They segregated by race. Heterogeneous areas tend to have higher crime rates as opposed to homorogeneous ones. Again, this doesn't mean that non-whites are causing the crime, it's making these people live together in shared environments that cause the problems. The Social Control Theory states that people who lack connections to their social environment are more likely to coommit crime. First sentence? No shit. There is PEACE in homogeneity. It is by far not a utopian society, but there is more peace and stability in them. Multicultural societies have always collapsed. Hell, in just recent history we have Yugoslavia, The Soviet Union, and Czechoslovakia and proving that people do not learn from the past, least we forget Rome. And by your own admission, you just proved that multiculturalism is wrong. You just proclaimed that people who are not connected to their environment will commit more crime. Well, most immigrants are not connected to their new societies by default so therefore you go, higher crime rates thrusted upon the native people in the name of some sick minded's altruism. Furthermore, studies show that conviction rates are higher amongst blacks because juries are more likely to convict a black defendant by racial bias. Add to this that there's a number of studies that also say that there's racial bias in jury selection leading to a higher percentage of whites on juries, especially on death penalty offences and things start to add up. Mainer, you are sounding dangerously like a libtard who does everything he can to make excuses for the crime of the black man. Look, one may think I talk in generalities but I realize that there are good people and bad people in every race. I mean, no shit. In my walk through life I have met many people of all nationalities that seemed to be nice. We all have. I'd bet many reading this have their own special "minority" friend whom they care deeply about. However, you cannot argue with the truth. Blacks, who make up around 13% of this country account for around 60% of the violent crime. Blacks also rape 30,000 plus white women in this county per year, yet in reverse, white men rape like, 10 woman on average per year. I always cite this fact toward libtards, many of whom are feminists, who can only retort with your logic of "blame whitey." You cannot argue with the facts, but you can try to make excuse for it which you like to do, Mainer. Anyway, I am sure most of you who read this will equate to what I just said above to hate and that I am a evil person who is a German Neo-Nazi. And that all I see is skin color, which is a lie. Frankly, I could careless about the color of one's skin, race goes a hell of a lot deeper than that despite what politically correct science tries to tell us today. There are other differences like; susceptibility to certain diseases, average bone length, different brain sizes, different percentage of muscle fibers, different melanin levels, different IQ levels, different behavioral attitudes, impulsiveness, etc.. etc... Before it became taboo, the studies and science are all there, you just have to find it. Hell, the hero of the secular, Charles Darwin, whose name adorns the back of many a car here in the States, actually warned about miscegenation and said it was an evolutionary step backwards. Anyway, back to me being "evil." That is what most people have been programmed to do in situations like these. All I am saying is that there are great people of all races, but statistically, some races account for far more problems than others. So while you embrace the productive 30%, you are saying the other 70% will be collateral damage, which is one hell of a problem to turn over to the rest of our society and this is what has occurred. One hell of a problem that has been passed onto us. Finally, economic imbalance creates crime. You're far more likely to commit crime if you're poor, uneducated, come from a broken home etc. There are more poor black people than poor whites. Ergo, more black crime. Every society has their bad eggs and integration amplifies the problem. There is a racial bias in the media, but there's more than just that which reinforces why nobody takes white nationalists seriously. A vast majority of them are aligned to supremacist thug groups and make their noise by rioting and stabbing non-whites. There's no educated, upper middle-class vanguard fielding this cause and if they are, they're usually supremacists who think they should be on a plantation. Yes, there are people who share the same beliefs as I do that are uneducated people but to say most who have a racial identity are is pure tripe, Mainer. In fact, many of the most educated people I know are nationalists but as you well know, we do not have a platform because in this age of cultural Marxism, our right to free speech is not provided without harm done to us. I am not some "redneck," which I always "lol" at because it, in itself, is a racial term. I am not some soccer hooligan. I do not want to hurt anyone. I do not want to see anyone dead. I want my people's God given right to self-determination back and I wish the same to every group out there. I mean, If anything, it is the people who would oppose what I have said that usually show a lack of intelligence. They tend to be "sheep" whose morality and intelligence have been built on western pop-cultural and have never bother to pick up a history book in their lives. For those of you who prefer a multicultural society, you should have it. The Earth is big enough for all us to have zones of various types of governments. If you want to mix yourself away, by all means, go ahead. Please, go ahead, I, however, have historically studied the multiculturalism society and have seen the forced integration with my own eyes. I wish to not choose that and I deserve a place for my beliefs as well. Do not act like your own shit does not stick, Mainer. The things you have said to me over the years leads me to believe you share many of the same concerns and ideas, but now you are here playing the role of the progressive libtard who tells everyone the power of love will solve the Earth's problems. The last thing I leave you with, Mainer, is this picture. If you shrank the entire world's population down to 10 people, at this point only one would be white. Yet, it is just this white person, the most diverse outwardly of them all, who would be told that he cannot be protective of his genetic gifts and must integrate with the other nine people. This laughable scenario is taking place right now, it is just we cannot fathom that we are the world's minority and shrinking every day.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Jan 13, 2013 22:00:30 GMT -5
Blacks, who make up around 13% of this country account for around 60% of the violent crime. I don't have time to respond to everything you said right now and I don't know the numbers and statistics, but as Mainer said couldn't this have something to do with the great amount of poor blacks? Blacks haven't had equal opportunities in this country until pretty recently. I'd be shocked if there was a much higher number of non-poor blacks committing crimes than non-poor whites.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 13, 2013 22:37:29 GMT -5
I don't have time to respond to everything you said right now ... Yeah, let me cut you off right there. You have the right to respond but I can tell you right now I am going to ignore whatever you type. Mainer is a friend, despite our yearly bickering sessions and we have had many talks about this over the years. You, however, I know what cloth you are cut from and let me tell you, I have no intention of even wasting a second of my life getting into some sort of debate with you.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Jan 13, 2013 23:41:46 GMT -5
I don't have time to respond to everything you said right now ... Yeah, let me cut you off right there. You have the right to respond but I can tell you right now I am going to ignore whatever you type. Mainer is a friend, despite our yearly bickering sessions and we have had many talks about this over the years. You, however, I know what cloth you are cut from and let me tell you, I have no intention of even wasting a second of my life getting into some sort of debate with you. What "Cloth I am cut from"? What does that mean? A. It's too bad that we can't be friendly since at one point in time we were, and I have good memories of that time... and B. What cloth am I "cut from"? You and everybody on ACW seems to have this idea that I'm some spoiled rich kid or something. I have no idea where this comes from. I'm not poor but I'm certainly not rich either. Im middle class. I don't live on the nicer part of Long Island (AKA Nassau County) and I don't even live in one of the nicer neighborhoods of Suffolk County. I have a pretty good house, my family does pretty well - we are far from rich. We don't have vacation homes, and sports cars, and yachts. I don't know who you think I am but I'm pretty sure you're wrong. You say "Gated community" but there are tons of gated communities here. I live in a suburb. You've roped me into a lot of groups before, Jews, rich kids, Ivy-leaguers...etc...like that's all one group of people that all think exactly the same way and YOU are the only person whose opinion matters. If this is the way you feel about things then I can understand why you feel the way you do about minorities. Everybody who isn't like you are is cut from a "certain cloth." I know you're not going to listen to anything I say so it's falling on deaf ears, but it is a little frustrating when people disregard what you have to say because of their preconceived notions of who you are and what "cloth" you must come from based on how you were born.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Jan 14, 2013 8:44:52 GMT -5
Sorry Kenny, I was too busy playing basketball and listening to Ye and Jay and knocking up white women.
I'll get back to you on this one but we should totally break this tension with some GTA or some Steaming.
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Post by VorteX on Jan 15, 2013 20:58:00 GMT -5
They did a study on babies. They put they babies of all colors in a room and guess what happened? They segregated by race. I'd love to see this study. A baby has enough intelligence to make a decision on ethnicity before they can learn to stop crapping themselves? Right. Also, America has no culture. Your family--like everyone else--immigrated from somewhere at one time. Making it impossible for you to be a part of the very homogeneity you seek.
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