I am going to watch EXTREME RULES tonight

[Kim Jong CP]

May 13, 2012 20:42:59 GMT -5 VorteX said:

Also, CP...one of these days you are going to wake up and realize you are proving my point with each and every post you make.

And that would be?

[VorteX]

Just the usual topic derailing and not bothering to try and contribute between blasting Freeman or I.

[Thunderkiss]

I like Dolph Ziggler.

[Jason Freeman]

May 14, 2012 21:23:12 GMT -5 Thunderkiss said:

I like Dolph Ziggler.

Dolph Ziggler is amazing.


And VorteX I don't see how you can see Lesnar as dead weight. Bad finish or not that match with Cena was pure electricity. Brock's always been awesome for that, in 2002 or now. He got awesome matches out of The Big Show. His matches with Taker and Rock and Angle were all great...he had great matches with everyone and above all else there's just an excitement around him that's always there.

Brock is an amazing wrestler and always was and a legit hoss who is also quick and agile. He's one of the guys in wrestling that can beat you up and make it look like he's legitimately killing you. He's great and having him around will be awesome. And what do you mean no feuds for him? A showdown with Punk at a major PPV could be phenomenal. Punk has gone through most of the Raw upper-midcard roster by now and been WWE champion for like six months. He's beaten Miz, Del Rio, Jericho, Dolph, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston, and Mark Henry (and many others, but just counting his title matches here). Soon he'll have beaten Tensai and Bryan most likely. He barely loses anymore and is put over really strong in the ring. An underdog feud against Lesnar would be awesome, I would LOVE to see that.

As for Kane/Orton I agree it sucks. I've enjoyed Cody/Show though. Cody's been great in it and if he can defend against Show again it'll help legitimize his title reign. Even if it's a dirty finish it's fine with me, it puts Cody over as a heel. And Punk's shoot promo may have put him over but to come across as a legitimate main eventer he simply has to beat stars. It'd be nice to see him beat a Cena or a HHH or something but at least Jericho is one of those guys that can always put on a great match and make his opponent look good and is credible as a legend.

While it's true WWE maybe hasn't done the best job in putting guys over to the next level I still disagree about getting rid of all the old guard. A PPV just having matches like D-Bry vs Sheamus wouldn't generate all that much interest. The only old guy still around that isn't that great is Kane, and he still has a big fanbase.

[VorteX]

I just always have seen Heyman as the reason Brock is so over. If we boil it down, Brock is a big dude who works stiff and is horrible on the microphone. The reason he is memorable is because of the guys he worked with, even this latest feud is only really memorable because Cena was bleeding everywhere. If it was just a normal match, I doubt that people would care too much.

Now, I don't totally hate the dude, he has had some entertaining feuds regardless. My favorite match with him is probably the one with Taker in the HIAC, but that was past, and quite frankly needs to stay there. I just do not see Brock Lesnar as someone that is really needed in the WWE right now. Promote Punk/Bryan, and even Sheamus/Orton...not Triple H / Brock.

I say this for two reasons. One is my obvious aversion to having and 'old vs. old' match if you will...it really doesn't help anyone out in the long run. The second and main one is the feud doesn't even make sense in kayfabe. Triple H JUST went through a grueling HIAC match with Taker that was supposed to 'end an era'. Not even a month later, he's mixing it up with Brock (despite him just being in that match and the fact that he's supposed management now), to the point where it looks like he's about to no-sell the arm break and badass his way through?

That's not the most logical direction for this whole thing to go in, but I guess if we get some gimmick match with them beating the hell out of one another a few people will be pretty happy. I for one want to get this crap out of the way and move Black/Hero up to the main roster. Hell, a Ambrose/Regal feud would be probably the best thing going in the WWE right now, and they leave that on FCW. Makes no sense at all.