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Post by Dan White on Apr 1, 2012 22:14:39 GMT -5
decent wrestlemania. there were a few things wrong (WHC match, shameless advertising for stuff like deadliest catch and slim jims, brodus clay/the whole flo rida crap) but there always will be in the PG era.
rock winning was class cos I really didn't expect that.
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Post by Fallen Souls on Apr 2, 2012 3:03:13 GMT -5
'That suit would give Brother Love a heart attack' - Jerry Lawler referring to Ace's suit. It's funny because Brother Love just had a bunch of heart attacks ... ?
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Post by TJ on Apr 22, 2012 3:10:05 GMT -5
Best Mania since 24 imo, The first hour wasn't great by any means, but from 8 oclock on, great stuff. Maybe I felt it was good because i did what not alot of people in the internet do and just sit down and try to enjoy it and not analyze what everything means.
Only thing that pissed me off was the first match because I wanted a longer match. But Maria Menudous' ass kinda made up for it.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Apr 22, 2012 13:39:17 GMT -5
^I would almost agree in that it was definitely better than WM25 and WM27 but I think WM26 has it beat....
It's a close call but just comparing matches...HBK/Taker was better than HHH/Taker (Though both were amazing, HBK's was more emotional IMO and the emotion felt less forced, also one of the best finishes ever)
Out of the title matches, Punk/Jericho and Sheamus/D Bry could have beaten Edge/Jericho and Batista/Cena if Sheamus/D Bry happened but it didn't. Punk/Jericho was very similar to Edge/Jericho in that both were dream matches that weren't quite as good as they could have been. I'll give the edge to Punk/Jericho but it's a close call and Batista/Cena was a great match too giving WM26 the edge.
Out of the special attraction dream matches on the card Rock/Cena or Bret/Vince (IMO they fit as a comparison as it's two matches fans never thought they'd get to see where the story basically writes itself based on the two guys, and both involve a big return to wrestling from a major legend) there's no question that Rock/Cena wins for sure. Bret/Vince was terrible and Rock/Cena was pretty good but not phenomenal.
Diva match edge goes to WM28...but...divas match.
Then out of the multiman throw-everybody-on-the-card match, Money in the Bank beats Team Johnny vs Team Teddy...
That leaves the undercard. Because the tag title match WAS shown on WWE.com in the preshow, I'll count it on the show rather than a dark match. And I'll give WM28 the edge with Primo/Epico vs Kidd/Gabriel vs Usos over ShowMiz vs Morrison/Truth.
Then closing up the card Wrestlemania 28 had Show vs Rhodes, and Kane vs Orton, neither of which was very good and the latter was one of the most boring mania feuds and matches ever. WM26 had Rhodes/Dibiase/Orton, Sheamus/HHH, and Punk/Rey, none of which were GREAT, but IMO all of which were better than the two undercard matches at 28....
So...it ends up a tough call, but WM26 has the edge in the title matches, Undertaker match, and undercard in general, with WM28 getting some major ground in that none of those were the main event, and the main event was Rock/Cena which added a new level to the show, but IMO it isnt enough, and as an overall solid show WM26 wins....
In general I'd roughly rank the WMs I've seen live (I've seen more, but I'm only counting ones where I watched before it to put it in proper context...i started watching right after X8) as
WM19 WM21 WM20 WM23 WM22 WM26 WM24 WM28 WM27 WM25
Though 22, 24, and 26 are very close together to me and hard to rank, and 28 is close behind...really I only think that WM19-21 were the best, and WM25 and WM27 were the worst, the rest are all roughly in the middle with 23 slightly ahead
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Post by TJ on Apr 23, 2012 21:58:05 GMT -5
I have WM 26 on DVD and rewatched it. First off, 26 had 4 extra matches on the main card.
The tag title matches go to 28.
The under card matches I'll give to 26, but there were two extra matches so it should have been better.
The main event matches, which you know are meant to sell the event, without a doubt go to 28. Even thought D-Bry and Sheamus was short and really didn't happen, it was entertaining if you weren't a smark. I watched with my little sis (shes 13) who is getting into wrestling and she was so excited for the rest of the event and she even said, "Good, he got what he deserved" Thats what Mania is meant to be, the end. Heels are meant to get theirs in the big feuds.
The Punk/Jericho match easliy out does Cena/Batista the WWE title match of 26 and also out does Jericho/Edge because it didn't have that terrible ending and was the story was great by current WWE standards. Especially hte little part when Jerich tried to knee his way out of the Vice again and Punk re-positioned himself.
The Streak match, I prefered the 28 match because it was built up as a brutal, hellacious, match and it delivered and more. If you weren't entertained by that match you need medical assistance.
And of course the dream match was better.
The thing is, 28 wasn't over saturated so the main matches were given enough or almost enough time to deliver. Ok sure the d-bry match didn't "deliver" but it did at the same time. And those matches carry more weight than a divas match because you bought the event for those matches not the divas and undercard matches. So since the big matches were better, the event is better. 10 years from now, 28 will be remember for teh HIAC and Rock/Cena, 8 years from now 26 will be remember for Bret Hart and Vince "fighting" and HBK leaving, that's if either will be remembered.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Apr 24, 2012 2:10:04 GMT -5
^It's hard to argue this because it's really an opinion question. But I think you're really selling 26 short....
I wouldn't have minded if Show vs Cody ended in three seconds to a knockout punch as it would have fit the storyline better, but Sheamus/D Bry should have actually happened...it was the opening match and a world title match and the Royal Rumble winner's title shot. And it could have been a great match because they've had a great match on Raw before. The crowd was dead until Hell in a Cell as a result.
And I also agree the main matches matter. But Cena/Batista was a great match and so was Jericho/Edge. Punk/Jericho was better than both, probably a four star match, but they were still at least both three star matches and two great title matches IMO are still better than one slightly more great title match. (And Batista/Cena by the way was an awesome title feud too, just as good as Jericho/Punk and probably slightly better.)
And I never said I didn't love hell in a cell. I did. But I think you're underplaying HBK/Taker II which was an amazing match, and personally I just liked more overall. The ending jumping tombstone was amazing and one of IMO the most epic Wrestlemania moments and a perfect sendoff for Shawn. I loved both matches, but HBK/Taker IMO takes the edge for me, and it also has the huge advantage of being the main event which helped the show overall since the main event being the most satisfying match really can bring the whole show together, and that was the only Mania since 20 where that was actually the case.
As I said it's kind of a stupid argument because neither opinion is wrong, and Bret/Vince was a disaster for sure, but HBK/Taker was so good it brings it home and overall I just felt 26 just had a better overall match quality.
But like I said, I did enjoy 28. Like I said, though, 19-21 IMO were just the best, and though being younger then may have something to do with it I truly think they were just great shows overall. I'll be going to 29 so I hope it beats it, but 28 was a great step in the right direction.
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Post by TJ on Apr 29, 2012 10:11:37 GMT -5
Cena/Batista wasn't a "great" match it was just better than anyone expected from the those two.
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