Jason Freeman
Competition Judge
Long Island Iced Free
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 7, 2011 16:21:11 GMT -5
Yeah but I didnt make personal jabs either...there was the one time with you, which Im sorry about. Most of the time we just talked about wrestling...
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 7, 2011 16:29:01 GMT -5
And then he goes and admits that he won the Fallen Heroes battle royal because he didn't want ME to win, despite the fact that he was already the champion, and for some completely bogus reason, which really boggles down to the fact that he didn't like me, when you take away his excuses. And so he screwed me out of the match so that I wouldn't get to go to Omega Effect. Which is completely corrupt modding, in my opinion. Like he said he didn't want me to win because I'm an "absolute cunt." What made CP a bad mod is he was 100% unable to separate personal feelings from his decisions, and I wish the board was made public so people could see the stuff he said about Rena, that was completely ridiculous. If I was going to win, then it doesn't matter if he likes me or not. If people always worked like that TK wouldn't have won nearly as many matches. BK didn't like him but he didn't go out of his way to enter matches to make sure TK didn't win. (Though I know he made some decisions that angered Kiss, but that's not what this discussion is about right now.) Freeman, what. the. fuck. As I was reading your middle paragraph, I was like, "this kid, who is known to slather BK's dick with his spit, is bitching about the same thing BK did to me." Not only that, you go on to profess that "TK wouldn't have won nearly as many matches." I won most of them. I WAS THE ONE GIVING AWAY FREEBIES, YOU PRICK. And yes, BK cock blocked me twice for the world title, one by winning a match to keep me from it when he had no ambition to win it in the finals of the tournament and later by casting what I am sure was a "fair and balanced" vote. You are just completely unbelievable.
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Jason Freeman
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 7, 2011 16:32:21 GMT -5
That's my point. You won tons of matches, and if BK didnt like you you'd think he would be stopping you from winning them.
But whatever, fine, so BK screwed you over. Let's say that's true. You despised him for it and it was one of your biggest problems with ACW, so why is it okay that CP did the same to me?
And also what bothers me is that nobody ever stood up to CP as a mod ever, and in my opinion it was CP as mod that screwed over ACW because he is just honestly one of the most boneheaded people Ive ever met, and I don't care if people think the same thing about me. The things Ive seen him say and do...the decisions he's made. It's just unbelievable.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 7, 2011 16:34:37 GMT -5
That's my point. You won tons of matches, and if BK didnt like you you'd think he would be stopping you from winning them. But whatever, fine, so BK screwed you over. Let's say that's true. You despised him for it and it was one of your biggest problems with ACW, so why is it okay that CP did the same to me? 1. He didn't like me. He couldn't stop me from winning matches in which he had no leverage in. He didn't do calcs, if he had, I would have been out the door years prior. When he did have leverage, he used it, and the same thing you were complaining about is the exact same thing he did to me. 2. DID I SAY IT WAS OKAY THAT CP DID THAT TO YOU? DID I, DIPSHIT? I am so against the screwing that occurred in this place that if it is true that CP did that to you, I would support your side of the argument.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 7, 2011 16:34:54 GMT -5
I had nothing to do with it Danny. If I did do you think Freeman would've been made a mod? It's a wonder him and BoreteX haven't been shown the door. Well if it isn't Mr. Phenomenal! I truly laughed my ass off when you were made an admin, as I knew what was about to happen. Lo and behold, who puts himself in the WHC scene, then craps all over the title by dropping the it to Mainer (in a hilariously obvious fashion) then winning the Battle Royal to...oh yeah, put himself right back in the WHC scene (and the ME of OE)? Y'know what? I have no shame in admitting it. You're right. I WAS handed the title. But can you, of all people tell me I didn't deserve it? I spent well over a year in midcard Hell. I put up with corrupt mods (BK) trying to hold me down because they didn't like my work yet every week I posted my eight segments. I contributed matches and I tried my hardest to hold up feuds, putting in HOURS of my spare time into when people would flake out on me. I'd always pick up the flak where others couldn't due to a lack of time or plain not wanting to. I had some great feuds with the likes of XS3, Hunter, TK, Sarin, Jake Cheng, Hell, even a micro-feud with BK London and a stellar feud with Chris Phenomenal which capped off my career and while I went about my business I always went to the absolute utmost effort to put everyone over me to the best of my abilities, even if I won the feud in the end. I did the best I could for everyone I worked with in this fed and put personal feelings aside to try and write good, memorable stories that people would enjoy reading even if they went ignored. And when the going got tough and I had nay-sayers, people like Freeman, like Stark, like BK, like (I think, but am not sure) the British clique of guys we had here that didn't like my work or didn't like me as a person I did my best and stuck it out and kept coming back with 8 segments a week, 4 when we dropped down to one weekly show. Even when I hit my breaking point and left for SLA because I was so sick of being held down, I came back when the new guard came in and tried even harder despite my writing wells being all but dried up. So granted, while my run towards the end of ACW wasn't fantastic can you honestly say after all that effort I put into this place over the last four years or so, I didn't deserve at least one run with the strap before I packed it all in? If not, then you need to reconsider your scoresheet for what you consider to be deserving.
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Jason Freeman
Competition Judge
Long Island Iced Free
Posts: 3,271
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 7, 2011 16:36:47 GMT -5
Alright fine, that's cool with me TK. Im just used to you always taking the opposite side from me <_<
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 7, 2011 16:38:46 GMT -5
/rant
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 7, 2011 17:01:32 GMT -5
By the 'British clique' do you mean Dan, Rob and myself?
If so, I'd just like to come out and say that, whilst I can't speak for the others, I have never held any ill will towards you as a person or as a writer. One of my biggest regrets in ACW is that the one time we did get to work together it was during a period where my interest in e-fedding had waned and I wasn't finding as much time for writing as I had in the past. I would have loved to have properly worked with you during my prime but for whatever reasons we weren't ever able to.
I'd also like to point out that I've never gotten myself involved in the politics of ACW by kissing arse or shitting on others because at the end of the day this is a hobby. It's not a business, fuck, it's not even real and I find it quite pathetic and appalling that over the years people have tried to hold others down because they don't like them. It's really, really fucking sad.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 7, 2011 17:08:50 GMT -5
By the 'British clique' do you mean Dan, Rob and myself? If so, I'd just like to come out and say that, whilst I can't speak for the others, I have never held any ill will towards you as a person or as a writer. One of my biggest regrets in ACW is that the one time we did get to work together it was during a period where my interest in e-fedding had waned and I wasn't finding as much time for writing as I had in the past. I would have loved to have properly worked with you during my prime but for whatever reasons we weren't ever able to. I'd also like to point out that I've never gotten myself involved in the politics of ACW by kissing arse or shitting on others because at the end of the day this is a hobby. It's not a business, fuck, it's not even real and I find it quite pathetic and appalling that over the years people have tried to hold others down because they don't like them. It's really, really fucking sad. Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't mean like, y'know, you actively went out of your way to shit on me or anything but I always just got this kinda' vibe that you lot weren't too keen on me generally.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 7, 2011 17:29:45 GMT -5
Well if that's how it felt to you then I can only apologize, The Empire (fuck it, I'm calling us The Empire because I loved The Empire) were a close knit group because we'd known each other for years, went to school together and were good mates. It probably seemed like we were a bit off with you because we had all kinds of inside jokes and shit and in hindsight it would have been a good idea for us to have extended an olive branch to you as a fellow Englishman because having people fight your corner probably would have helped your cause.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 7, 2011 17:38:41 GMT -5
Well if that's how it felt to you then I can only apologize, The Empire (fuck it, I'm calling us The Empire because I loved The Empire) were a close knit group because we'd known each other for years, went to school together and were good mates. It probably seemed like we were a bit off with you because we had all kinds of inside jokes and shit and in hindsight it would have been a good idea for us to have extended an olive branch to you as a fellow Englishman because having people fight your corner probably would have helped your cause. In hindsight though I can also see why you might've been off with me back then as I was a majorly weird and annoying prick in my early years.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 7, 2011 17:42:30 GMT -5
If that were the case you wouldn't have been the only person who was a majorly weird annoying prick back then anyways.
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Post by El Shadowo on Aug 7, 2011 17:45:12 GMT -5
It's not a business, fuck, it's not even real and I find it quite pathetic and appalling that over the years people have tried to hold others down because they don't like them. It's really, really fucking sad. QFT And what happened the mudwrestling I was promised? Huh?
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 7, 2011 17:46:03 GMT -5
If that were the case you wouldn't have been the only person who was a majorly weird annoying prick back then anyways. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rose, Stark and Nick Durden were still kicking around back then.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 7, 2011 19:37:28 GMT -5
I appreciate the compliment about me being one of the last talents but I feel that's marred somewhat with your comments about people "Not wanting to be part of TK's storylines". And to be honest, that annoys me because it simply wasn't true. At the time, I had my own storylines going on and was on the verge of finally becoming main event. If I was to join a Thunderkiss-lead SLA revolution, it would've killed all the momentum I had because I would've been overshadowed by Kiss's larger than life character when I was trying to break out and stand on my own. It's not because you were coordinating the angle, but because ever since ACW people have always considered me "Kiss-lite" and I wanted to try and stand on my own two feet rather than latching on to other people's stories. While, yes, I was a bit selfish in my desire to have both you and Mark participate in the angle so to make it better - I have no doubt that both of your involvements would have been beneficial to both your work and your "heat." What is, is, and we'll never know for sure.
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