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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 7, 2011 21:19:59 GMT -5
I'd really like for this reboot to happen, even if it means we make some changes in order to expedite the process.
For example, I see no problem with bringing across some old Fallout faces to fill the ranks, obviously not many of the big players like Daniel Ness etc. But bringing across some of the undercard and definitely some of the staff. Fallout wouldn't be the same without Fisher and Bardo calling the action.
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Post by VorteX on Aug 7, 2011 21:35:43 GMT -5
On the one hand, I find it amusing how negative a reaction CP's current trolling gimmick on here has gotten <_< Word Dave! BorteX, I was main event before becoming a mod. I won two matches after I became a mod, the title because Kiss was headed out the door and didn't want it, and the Battle Royal because Freeman was feuding with Senator and I didn't want him to win 'cause he's still an absolute cunt for the reason Mainer said, that radio show. You were all over Rep's nuts about being a cock and totally missed the fact Freeman was as part of it as much. Reason I wanted him banned all along. Stick to physics mate! It's something you're actually half decent at. CP, I'm not being proved wrong here by the rest of the replies. Honestly, I don't dislike you, however I do feel that you've used politics to your advantage one too many times to be a mod. In regards to the SLA angle, that thing, along with the Rep radio show is what killed off most of ACW. Anything after that was just shambles, both in writing and in leadership. As far as that radio show goes, I went after Rep mostly because he was the one orchestrating the whole deal, I had no care to listen to any more of it than I had to...so if Freeman was bashing then I missed it. I do agree that everyone who went on there is equally as 'bad', because you know, you all supported the thing. To be honest, this crap is most of the reason why I kept to myself when writing. No getting screwed over, and it still allowed me to participate at a distance without getting too close to get burned. The two or three feuds I had with real people were great in my opinion, despite being on a small scale and in one case with a person who would later go on and spark some nasty fires around here. That's why I mostly regret leaving in 06/early 07, because that's really when I feel I could have gotten the most production out of my writing. None of this crap went on (to my knowledge), and if something were going on 'backstage' none of it made it's way up front. Sure, there were a few annoying people here and there, but nothing like the complete caving of administration that happened during 2009/early 2010.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 8, 2011 0:43:11 GMT -5
I appreciate the compliment about me being one of the last talents but I feel that's marred somewhat with your comments about people "Not wanting to be part of TK's storylines". And to be honest, that annoys me because it simply wasn't true. At the time, I had my own storylines going on and was on the verge of finally becoming main event. If I was to join a Thunderkiss-lead SLA revolution, it would've killed all the momentum I had because I would've been overshadowed by Kiss's larger than life character when I was trying to break out and stand on my own. It's not because you were coordinating the angle, but because ever since ACW people have always considered me "Kiss-lite" and I wanted to try and stand on my own two feet rather than latching on to other people's stories. While, yes, I was a bit selfish in my desire to have both you and Mark participate in the angle so to make it better - I have no doubt that both of your involvements would have been beneficial to both your work and your "heat." What is, is, and we'll never know for sure. The only problem is, I was trying to break out as a face and joining an Anti-ACW, pro-SLA movement even while we were touring the west coast would've made me heel.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Aug 8, 2011 2:12:30 GMT -5
And also Freeman, let's look at what all else was planned around the Battle Royal time. You had a feud with Senator already planned out, while Mainer had taken the absolute reigns of the place. It was only fair for him to win the title because as mod I didn't want the title which is entirely lost upon this entire thing. Senator ran the calcs and it came down to Kenny and I, and so I got it. I had one defence against Mark and then dropped it. Then we come to the battle royal, which I completely out wrote you for. You can look at the calcs and I had Dave do the quality so you can take out any perceived bias there. Even with your absolutely stupid Trace Birmingham segments designed to do nothing but beef up your quantity, with me taking a fatigue having faced Mainer earlier, and you having a higher random ... we still came to a tie at which point YOU, in consult with Senator talked about your feud and it was agreed upon by Senator, not I, that I should win. In addition I had Mainer promise to give you the next title shot which we also guaranteed as a mod group. I'm sure even you can get it through your thick skull that Mainer would've wanted as much to do with you at that time as I did but he feuded at you when he didn't have to. He could've feuded with TJ, Scorpion, Dan White, Buddy Ghee and that would've been his prerogative but for the only time in ACW history someone was FORCED to feud with someone. The only thing thing you can say I 'screwed' you out of was being the Fallen Heroes winner, and that wasn't a screwjob, it was how the calcs went. And seeing as how some people can't see the mod board. Let's show how the calcs came out for that match You can even go back and look at the shows and double check the quantity and they add up. 1 point for a segment, .5 for a match. I'm sure you'll look at the 5 for the first week and say it should've been four and a half but there's a match and segment in the same bloody post. Was it short yes, but it's longer than many of the summaries we got. The second week has my uncredited stuff that was written as the show was posted ... something I'm sure you can empathize on when shit doesn't get submitted and you have to wing it. There was no screwjob as your claiming Freeman, I didn't want you to win because your a cunt. You said first you said nothing, but then you said things. You can call me stuff about Rena completely ridiculous but there was reason with her, there was a discussion and at the end of the day, I have a right to not be supportive. It's my faith, my religion, my creed, my choice! You don't have to like or agree with it but that's the way the world works. Plus, you'll recall she made similarly insensitive comments about myself. I don't see you being so indignant about them. So with all that said and your complicity in the Reprobate fiasco (which for the only time in my life I will agree with SnorlaX on), I didn't want you too win. The calcs are up there Freeman for everyone to see and I didn't abuse mod powers, I just simply wrote great segments. You can say you should've been a seven, you were a seven in August 09 but that was before the useless Trance Armstrong stuff that was the same stupid shit that Taylor used that got everyone pissed at him. If you take out those segments your writing is probably on par with mine but your quantity isn't.
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Post by El Shadowo on Aug 8, 2011 6:43:31 GMT -5
Hey guys, guess who I am!!!!
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 8, 2011 14:13:42 GMT -5
Somebody say Mud Wrestling?
Picture deleted by Dave...SEE, I CAN ABUSE MOD POWERS TOO!!!
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 8, 2011 14:32:01 GMT -5
DAMMIT MAINER.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 8, 2011 16:21:02 GMT -5
So you don't think Im taking anything out of context, I will post the whole thing you wrote on the mod boards about Rena...
Also, if Rena continues with this child shit, I'm going to just start with the gay crap. Is it socially acceptable necessarily? No, but as a Christian I don't accept it's open flaunting. I've tried reasoning and being nice (save for my pot shot at the end but I was visibly shaking with anger at not being shown any respect to at least get my side of the story, or for her to send me a PM first. I know she'd have done the same for any other mod.), but if she continues I have no problem fighting fire w/ fire. I know she said she had no problem, but I guarantee this all stems back to when Rep was around and she got all pissy because I said I can't control the fact that I have ADD, but she can control her sexual orientation (it's quite easily, unless you're raped, you're control where you wave your wand)
I'm sorry but THAT was a sentence from our administrator, Chris Phenomenal. That's one of the most bone-headed things I've ever read, so much so that it sounds like you're trying to sound like a moron. And the fact of the matter is I could understand if you were saying it to troll Rena in the heat of an argument but Rena can't even see that board, so that is your legitimate opinion. It's ridiculous that THAT person is making decisions for the fed....I think it's ridiculous enough when you go on about it being against your religion, but I don't know how anybody can claim that controlling your sexual orientation is the same as controlling where you "wave your wand." By that matter, I can say you can of course choose not to have ADD, since all you have to do is pay attention.
And on another note, the Trace Birmingham stuff was mostly for my own entertainment, since Freeman was such an ultra-serious character and I wanted to just do some writing for fun, especially because since he never feuded with anybody, I didn't have to worry about HAVING to do that stuff. Also I wrote it because as you remember ACW was having trouble with length issues and I wanted to beef up the shows so they weren't one page things. A lot of time I would write a couple last minute Trace things to ensure that the show made a decent length.
It had nothing to do with quantity points, as at first I didn't even think it would count. Senator himself later said that he would count them for my score and I said okay. What about Senator writing for Thiago? I don't see anybody complaining about that. Or you writing for Laron Xavier? It was just a separate character I was writing for fun, and Senator told me since he didn't really compete in matches I could count it. What Taylor did was write about a non-wrestling character for no reason out of nowhere. I was just writing a joke character for fun, he was at least a wrestler, and interacted with other people.
Can you please tell me what I exactly did on the Rep show? I say over and over again that I was barely part of it, that I was on less than half of the shows, and that I rarely took shots at people besides the time about Mainer. You don't reply to that part though.
Oh and as for the calcs, assuming Trace counted (which another mod told me it did, so that's fine with me, and you said that I already had a quality drop, so that should even things out. Though I don't get the problem with them because I liked those segments) then we tied, so you could say yeah you chose to win, but wtf were you doing competing in the match in the first place? Even if you could say you should have won by calcs, you dropped the title to compete in the match in the first place....that really doesn't sound fair to me, and I wonder if you would have done that had Mainer been the guy that was going to win the battle royal?
You were the champion at the time, you know. Mainer didn't even come close to beating you in calcs. So yes you did tie with me in calcs and technically could put a case forward that you should have taken it in a tie but really you had no business there in the first place, you dropped the title to beat me. That's my take on it anyways. Also even if you EXCLUDE Trace I beat everybody else in the match INCLUDING Mainer, the guy you dropped the title to earlier in the night. The only way I could have won apparently was to not only beat everybody in the match, but also beat the current ACW champ. We were the top two in calcs in ACW with or without Trace, and therefore should have been me vs you at Omega Effect but you didn't want to do that because you don't like me, and you admitted as such that you wouldnt work with me on the mod boards in another topic. You can say you did everything fairly but your choice seems extremely shady to me. And of course when you wrote the match you proceeded to squash me in the final two that you wrote, which is stupid to complain about but just petty and really characteristic of you who constantly took shots at me on the shows for no reason.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 8, 2011 16:57:26 GMT -5
That quote about Rena is seriously the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Seriously.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 8, 2011 17:36:53 GMT -5
On a side note. People are such hypocrites that it bothers me.
Poeple see a paedophile and they see a sick, twisted monster who prays sex on children. Paedophiles get attacked in the street for their acts as if what they do is their own choice. Like who they are attracted to is a decision of their own. Yet homosexuality is a-Okay because that's apparently not a choice. Why is homosexuality not a choice and paedophila is?
I don't endorse paedophilia, but I don't endorse the victimization and double standards of the so-called liberal media either.
Also, who's to say homosexuality isn't a choice? There's no empirical evidence which states homosexuality is beyond choice, even within our subconscious.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 8, 2011 17:48:50 GMT -5
Aye but paedo's rape kids, homosexuals have consenting sex with other homosexuals. Like comparing apples and oranges.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 8, 2011 17:51:41 GMT -5
Aye but paedo's rape kids, homosexuals have consenting sex with other homosexuals. Like comparing apples and oranges. It wasn't all that long ago that homosexuals were demonized the same way paedophiles are today. Also, there's plenty of evidence of consenting relationships between generations but, those perpetrators are called rapists on a legal standpoint rather than a matter of fact one.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 8, 2011 17:55:18 GMT -5
Good point but I don't think anyone is pushing for nonce's rights. Unless that's what the riots are for.
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 8, 2011 17:59:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately not. They're moaning about some twat drug dealing thug who got shot by the police because he had a gun. And people are calling it unfair. His family started a peaceful protest and some cunts highjacked it and now it's spreading. They've attacked Birmingham Children's Hospital, the sickly fucking cunts. Speaking of which guys. Real talk. That's Croydon, a borough in London. It's on fire.
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Post by El Shadowo on Aug 8, 2011 18:01:37 GMT -5
Poeple see a paedophile and they see a sick, twisted monster who prays sex on children. Paedophiles get attacked in the street for their acts as if what they do is their own choice. Like who they are attracted to is a decision of their own. Yet homosexuality is a-Okay because that's apparently not a choice. Why is homosexuality not a choice and paedophila is? I get your point and agree to an extent; I don't believe sexual attraction is a choice. Its a fetish and a mindset. At the same time, where pedophiles get in trouble is that they often rape kids who are weaker than them or manipulate their sexual partners into relationships. Pedos prey on their partners. I have little problem with someone with an attraction but when they carry through on them, just like another rapist, they deserve to be punished. But that is a different topic <_<
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