Jake Steele
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Post by Jake Steele on Apr 6, 2009 19:58:24 GMT -5
When you update the site could you update my roster page pic with my current poser?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 6, 2009 20:32:30 GMT -5
Cheng is right ... sorta. I've seen this before. There were a core of guys in my old fed who hung with it through thick and thin. They WERE the fed. People came; people went. No mater what, these guys remained. There was only one thing that finally started to dissolve this core group and it was ...
... time.
When we started to grow older, we lost one important member after another. Without that core, I might has well had started over again since you can't get new people to care about things that they were not a part of. In the end, I did exactly that only became a roleplayer instead of running an e-fed.
Now ACW, here's the good news. Yes, time erodes all and e-feds are not immune, but ACW has a lot going for it. A lot more than what I had. We have many more people who care than in my little scenario. I often felt alone in my quest, that is not the case here. Many people here take ownership of ACW and now it's time for them to show they are more talk than walk. That goes for the retired who come and visit us each day. They also have a responsibility to help. They may no promo anymore, but are still tasks to be had. Don't want to join the recruitment effort? Fine. Go look on the ACW Facts Board. There are plenty of topics that need "adopting" and I really think that's the least they could do.
What about me, you ask? If I see someone I think would be good for the team, I'll invite them. Besides that, if we need anything that needs money thrown at it, come see me and I'll pay for it. Don't waste your time at Roughkut, the place has changed and our banner ad there hardly did anything.
Finally, if you can't see yourself doing any of the above, do these two things.
1. Help a rookie out. You try walking into a new fed where nobody knows your name. It's not easy.
2. Take interest in other things than your own work. You would be amazed what feedback does for people. I really would like to get my post show wrap ups out again, but folks, I need some time away from ACW.
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Jake
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Post by Jake on Apr 6, 2009 20:55:16 GMT -5
Hughes yes, Steele no.
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Jake Steele
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Post by Jake Steele on Apr 6, 2009 21:10:59 GMT -5
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Post by lee on Apr 6, 2009 22:39:57 GMT -5
All right, so I'll warn ya'll right off the bat that these are gonna be some incredibly controversial ideas, but it does seem like we're going with the "throw everything you got int the basket" approach, and that's exactly what I'll do. I highly doubt anyone here will go for my recommendations, but maybe they'll serve as a jumping off point for future endeavors.
Firstly, and definitely least controversial, we should consider advertising on the site Jaden's top site list. I seriously do believe this site has become the foremost authority in E-fed rankings.
Second, maybe we can consider moving to Invisionfree boards instead of Proboards. I've found Invisionfree to be much more graphics friendly, and there's much more flexibility when you're making the layout of the boards.
Last, and definitely most controversial, maybe we can allow people to start playing as real-life wrestlers? Some of you might not believe this, but most of the thriving feds I've seen in current times are composed almost entirely of writers who portray real-life wrestlers. As a matter of fact, feds like ACW that are composed entirely of original characters are definitely a dying breed in the fed world. Most of the feds I've been seeing don't even allow original characters. Like I said, I seriously doubt anyone will adopt this policy, but these definitely are the facts as I've seen them.
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Jake Steele
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Post by Jake Steele on Apr 6, 2009 22:43:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry Lee, but no, no, and just no. That'll be ripping the life out of ACW completely. We don't want a bunch of HBK and Kurt Angle clones running rampant through the fed.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Apr 6, 2009 22:46:05 GMT -5
Well, I'd hate to move the entire board over to invision, that would be way too much work. The benefit wouldn't be worth the work.
Like your idea to be added to that site.
Real wrestlers? I vote no.
Thanks for your input, though.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Apr 6, 2009 22:47:15 GMT -5
I agree Lee, I joined WWE:R and absolutely hate it there, if I don't get to feud with TJ I'm probably out. I just can't get into feuds between two real wrestlers like I can create a wrestlers. Jaden's is fine as I know in ECF we got a few people from the top site lists. As for switching to IF, NO, there is so much history here, that people like me who like to know the fed would lose out on.
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Post by Bre Dubs on Apr 6, 2009 23:19:33 GMT -5
i'll start getting more involved(believe it when we see it asshole!! What?). I'd definitely help create a welcoming committee
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Post by Jonny Spade on Apr 6, 2009 23:21:41 GMT -5
Switching to Invision boards wouldnt work out to well for us, we'd lose more people because some of them wouldnt want to transfer or get lost in the sign up of it, some of the vets remember how bad we did when we went from GFaqs to the proboards.
If TK wants to advertise on that site mentionedd (dont know if its going to cost anything or not) then its up to him.
Real Wrestlers? I doubt thats going to go over well. With real wrestlers your quite limited to what is writable since they would have to relate it to the wrestler and they cant customize their moveset as much as they could with an original character.
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Post by lee on Apr 6, 2009 23:39:25 GMT -5
Really, the only thing I was trying to get at with the last suggestion was that we could greatly expand the pool of people we could appeal to. Spade raised some legit points about the downsides of such an endeavor, but I've found in my travels around the interwebs that there are people who actually prefer those kinds of things. They like to play off a history that's already been established. Some dudes quite literally only want to play as, say, a Randy Orton (though this'll be hell if TNT ever does make that return). I definitely see that it would violate a lot of what ACW has stood for over the years, and I certainly don't want this place to betray its identity, but speaking as a guy who's played both as an original character and an existing wrestler, I'll say that I haven't really noticed a difference in the experience. I'm still able to tell the stories that I wanna tell just as proficiently either way. But, yeah, that was just nonsense from yours truly, you're more than free to dismiss it as garbage .
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Post by The Senator on Apr 7, 2009 0:07:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I would hate to use real wrestlers here. Aside from a bizarro show, it'd decimate the entire ACW world to integrate the likes of Cena and Batista into things. I'd rather go out proudly than to compromise everything to survive.
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Post by Rena on Apr 7, 2009 0:19:04 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think the question of survival has been blown out of proportion. Dan you should know better than some of the people who have posted after you that this crisis is brought up every single year and millions of ideas surface on how to make the board more user-friendly and enticing to newer members. Most of these ideas are never implemented, with the rare idea actually coming to fruition ... and year by year we continue to get by. I feel like you are using the statistic on Fallen Heroes unfairly, as we usually have a low count of members during this time.
After OE, ACW takes their annual Summer Break, and since school ends for most during the summer months we have a surge of new members who have either transferred from a closed fed, or have had more time to pursue their hobbies at that time. Month by month the numbers lower because people become more busy and we are finally rounded out by the winter with the older vets and a few new members who have committed.
Then school priorities kick in during the spring and our numbers drop. This is when the crisis begins, however everything works out by summer once again. I quite enjoy the small community we have, and if you think of all the memorable writers we have had in the past, you will soon discover it's a pretty short list considering ACW has been open for 4-5 years.
ACW is fine, and it always has been. I don't think we need to make drastic changes to the way business is done here, and it would be a complete slap in the face for those who have worked hard to make ACW what it is today. Already I feel like the old days of ACW is slipping through the cracks, and the very idea of switching boards or making the wrestlers 'real' is insulting.
To conclude, this crisis should not be happening. If you think about it, we have 19 active people as you say. For each show, say they write 2 segments each. That is 38 segments per show, and I think that is still a good bulk per show to be reading and actively participating in.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 7, 2009 0:23:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I would hate to use real wrestlers here. Aside from a bizarro show, it'd decimate the entire ACW world to integrate the likes of Cena and Batista into things. I'd rather go out proudly than to compromise everything to survive. Pretty much my thoughts on the Real Wrestlers idea. As for moving boards, no way. There is FAR too many things on the social boards that I, as well as many other, would want to lose. AS well as all the shows, profiles, etc.
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Post by Dan White on Apr 7, 2009 0:27:33 GMT -5
It's not just that, though. Normally in Autumn we tend to have a burst of wrestlers. Failing that, the burst comes late winter. Though we had this late burst this year, the majority of people have quit. Franchise, Garland, Mikaru, Williams. I'd name more, but I've been up for 30 hours and my brain is mashed. The simple factor is that whilst we go through the circle every year, every year we're bringing back less and less people, whilst more and more people leave. And the roster is slowly dwindling. If anybody who has kept PMs ever since 2005 I'd love to see how many were on the roster at the beginning of the year, at Fallen Heroes time, and during Autumn. And I bet the roster has consistantly declined as each period gets closer to 2009.
And the Fallen Heroes statistic is relevant. It shows the lack of active people during this time throughout those years. Yes, we're normally low on members at this point during the year, but that doesn't explain how we managed to get double the entrants into Fallen Heroes in 2007. I think it's a fair indicator into how ACW is doing for numbers, and I think that even for this time of year, we're suffering.
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