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Post by BK London on Aug 2, 2008 23:57:34 GMT -5
You know, if you spent as much time writing those two posts about me writing segments, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now - but back to the point.
While I don't necessarily want to sound like a jerk right now - because honestly I don't like hurting people's feelings - but you just proved my point. And while YOU don't think you ask me a lot of questions, with the phrases "sometimes I ask you questions", but you fail to realize that I don't need to help you every step of the way in your feud. I realize that the booking committee made an error when booking Jake Steele in the match, but you're telling me there's no way you could've worked around it to make it work for your feud? You're telling me there's no way that you could've taken advantage of this, rather than cry about your whole feud is ruined.
When I got suspended four years ago for getting on the nerves of the rest of the mods, during a big feud with Latino, did I complain about how the entire feud was ruined? No. We worked our way around it and made it work for us. I didn't appear for about three or four shows, but the match was still hyped.
When during my feud with Fallen Souls over the past month, when Fallen Souls had his share of problems back home and wasn't able to write, did I just stop writing altogether because I had no ideas? No. I wrote segments hyping the feud and through our matches we helped build the feud as well.
When in YOUR feud, with Thunder Train just recently - when he asked you to do a little segment and you didn't do it. Did he just complain? No. He wrote segments continuing to advance the feud and did a pretty good damn job on his own. And yet, was he given the perfect chance to injure you like he should've? Did you sell the injury like a pro to make your exit? No. Instead of any broken bones, instead of any shattered vertabrae, you went out with a stubbed toe. Yeah, that screams credibility for Train. The man who worked hard for the feud now has to gloat about how he stubbed the toe of the great Jason Freeman.
You need to stop depending on others and depend on yourself. You need to stop asking everyone questions to help decide your future, and decide your future yourself. We aren't Jason Freeman. We don't need to decide if you're going to be injured or you're going to leave. We don't need to decide if you want to stick with your current character or if you want to make a new one. We don't need to decide that. I know that I'm a veteran and you value my input, but you don't need to come to me for every single thing.
You want to know why I scream at you? You want to know why I brush off your questions? Because I try to avoid any confrontation like this. Because you piss me the fuck off.
You can write great segments if you want, you can come up with great segments if you want, but you want to play video games and wait until the latest possible time to do things. That pisses me off. It pisses me off that back in the day, you were a former International Champion and Entertainment Champion, and now you're ruining your own credibilty because you're not able to organize your time. It pisses me off that people like XS3, Jake Steele, AC Evans, Flamingo, and etc haven't won any ACW titles, but you have - and you look like absolute shit right now. I'm mad, that the man who hasn't written anything really constructive in the past six months decides he needs a two month break and questions me about the validity of being double booked.
I know that I'm a mod, but there's no reason I can't get mad. I got mad at Jon Taylor, yet you were the one laughing it up and egging him on. Now I'm mad at you, and you now want to attempt to play the victim. You cannot accept the truth Freeman. And you will continue to write excuse after excuse after this post to attempt to make yourself look like you have done nothing wrong, but you need to face facts. I know it. Thunder Train knows it. The rest of the fed knows it. It's not a secret anymore. You don't do shit and you still want to appear to be good. I'm sorry for getting out of control, but it's the truth. Now for the love of god, unless you've got something to say that deals with you accepting this - LEAVE ME ALONE!
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Post by BK London on Aug 2, 2008 23:58:19 GMT -5
Although, it does reiterate something that I've previously made clear to a different mod, in that it's fine and well having an active mod team of 4 people, but only two of those (BK and Jonny) are regularly online on an instant messaging service. Senator is on occasionally, but it's generally later at night when it's harder to contact. And AK isn't online because she's a Goddess and understandably probably gets harrassed by everyone ever whenever she does. So basically, a lot of questions will be fired at the pair of you. I know that I ask each of you a question at least once a day. Now I'm not suggesting mods are forced to spend more time online on an instant messaging service, but just a way to lighten the questions off you lot (and by my understanding, filtering out the questions could annoy you less >_>). Perhaps a revamped part of the ancient Welcome Board system, where certain people are given certain duties that are above the others in the fed, apart from mods, and they would be able to help out as much as others. Even make the Creative Department even more official, and add another couple of people to it. Sorry for the delay, you could just PM us about it. I'm sure it could wait a few hours.
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Post by Dan White on Aug 3, 2008 0:03:30 GMT -5
I don't mean me in general. And sometimes when people have urgent questions. But nevermind, that's a topic for another day...
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Post by xs3 on Aug 3, 2008 0:18:25 GMT -5
It pisses me off that people like XS3, Jake Steele, AC Evans, Flamingo, and etc haven't won any ACW titles, but you have - and you look like absolute shit right now. I love you in a completely hetero way.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 3, 2008 0:23:12 GMT -5
Alright BK, dont kill me, but I just wanna make a few points here.
Your major argument point is "OH yeah, you coulda got around it." My point (as I even told you then) was that, yes I could...that DOESNT mean that didnt screw up things...and it was YOUR fault, and you blamed ME. If you had just apologized or something...FINE, even did NOTHING, but at least not BLAME ME for it when it wasnt my fault. This is a repeat of last time, but my argument is still, I purposely left the feud off for a bit with the intention of picking it back up. The. Problem. was. Only. That. He. Was. Booked. and you REFUSE to admit that, and start getting on my case. It should also be mentioned here, that this was JUST as I found out, and realistically, of course there is going to be those first couple of minutes where I realize all my plans are futile when YES I am realistically going to be a bit annoyed. I wasnt just going OH GOD OH GOD I CANT FIX THIS. My first reaction was I cant believe this, everything's screwed up...and then a couple minutes later, its like "Okay, how do I fix this..." Im sure Im not the only person who would react like that.
Train feud? I honestly was against an injury in the first place >_>, but Im only going for TWO MONTHS, so I cant exactly shatter my vertebrae after getting thrown to the steel off the set...and then be right back...the stubbed toe thing was a joke, considering that the whole FUED was a joke...and please dont get on my case, becuase Chef thought it was funny when I brought it up, and being that this whole feud started as a result of stupid ideas and just doing it to be funny, I thought Id cap it off with this....NOW Chef tells me he thought it was stupid now looking back, saying he was tired and his mind wasnt in the right place exactly, but whatever, at the time he thought it was funny, so I did it...he had a chance to object, and he didnt, and if he had told me he didnt like it, I woulda changed it....I dont wanna hear you against me with that, because Chef was in agreeance at the time.
The two month break is pretty neccecary. Its been almost two years in ACW, gradually I kinda started to write less and less till it became basically nothing...Im taking two months to just get my head together, get myself to want to do it again, and HOPEFULLY take off repackaged, and able to remain consistent, interesting, and remain INTERESTED. Once writing became like a chore, it ended up being put off, my quality went down whatever...I ADKNOWLEDGE quite well that I havent lived up to my potential, and that I screwed up many times...and I PLAN TO FIX THAT
I told you that after these two months, I PLAN FULLY ON REMAINING ACTIVE AND CONSISTENT AND FINALLY GETTING MY HEAD TOGETHER...I know you dont believe me, and you dont have to, but I intend to prove it...hence the week. The double booking was neccecary, as stated, because there was no REAL way around it...
I have said many times admitting a lot of the things you say about me...its not like I go around thinking oh yeah, Im perfect. But YOU also take REFUSING to help and getting annoyed to an EXTREME, where you are completely exceeding rationality. Im not trying to make myself look like a victim, Im just merely stating my opinion that you tend to take things too far, and you've done it yet again. The double booking convo was. Completely. Necessary. That had to be settled, and because of your short temper, it really wasnt sufficiently talked out. Sure, maybe I can cut back on questions, but as a mod, you should be prepared to answer a COUPLE....OKAY?!
Im not saying you're wrong, but I do think you tend to be too harsh and stuff, just look at you before "You have no redeeming qualities" or whatever you said...that was unnecessary, and this conversation wasnt nearly as personal as you made it. And I was a bit annoyed by that, because I would like to have a good relationship with you, but whatever...
Yeah, Im not trying to get you angrier, IM JUST MAKING A POINT THAT YOU TAKE THINGS TOO FAR...and I REALLY wanted to just settle this peacefully over AIM but you refused to do so, and so we had to do it here, which wasnt necessary.
Whatever, Im not trying to come off as whining, or as a victim, Im merely trying to defend my point, or whatever, and now because of this whole thing when you DO unblock me its gonna be really awkward after this, and I REALLY didnt want it to come to this point but now it did...so yeah. Uh, whatever, I dont know if Ive said everything I have to say, but I hope you understand my point a little bit.
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Post by acevans on Aug 3, 2008 0:31:51 GMT -5
This is possibly the most juvenile thing I've read since I've joined ACW. You're actually upset that someone isn't nice to you and is ignoring you?
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Post by BK London on Aug 3, 2008 0:44:57 GMT -5
I've said what I've said Freeman, so I'm done.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 3, 2008 0:45:57 GMT -5
>_> Can we shake hands and pretend this never happened? <_<
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Post by Jake Steele on Aug 3, 2008 1:05:13 GMT -5
It pisses me off that people like XS3, Jake Steele, AC Evans, Flamingo, and etc haven't won any ACW titles, but you have - and you look like absolute shit right now. BK speaks the absolute truth. On not just that, but the fact that you really don't have nothing going for you and you continue to bitch, and try to rise back to the top. Honestly, I remember when I did come back. It was unexpected and honestly I had no plans to promo, I literally looked at the card said to myself "Well there goes that" and I went on about my business. Then like a few days before the show is ready happen, BK notified the boards that he needed to speak with me and he did. We talked about my career for god knows how long, told me things, and gave me advice that I still use for my career in ACW today. It rejuvenated my belief in ACW long story short and for that I owe BK a million thanks. I got ideas for our feud, and luckily Kudo had just returned and not wanting to wait I jumped onto getting him in our feud and even at one time planned on having it just me vs. him. But NO, you message me on MSN left and right about why am I doing this, why have I just made segments without your consent... because Freeman... YOU DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT! Train, and others have all told me you do shit else but play Rock Band, but I didn't want to believe it. I tried working shit out with you, but everytime I went to ask you on MSN, you had something to do or atleast you claimed you did. So I said fuck it, I worked with Kudo more than you and rightfully so because the segments that I did put out came from most of his great ideas (which I saw more of for SDS) and which is why I never informed you. Then after that I hear YOU, of all people are writing the match, I try to put faith in you... I try my best, and to even help you and your OH SO hectic life, I volunteered taking half of the match. But once again, fucking NO, you want to try and take the glory... OE day comes, I, like everyone else, is pumped up for a fucking amazing show. Then I come to hear you're late with the match and you didn't show up to about 2 hours before the show. You're the reason that the show almost got delayed and even after me trying to help you out again, you still stick with your fucking rock headed ways and you try to send in the match as fast as possible and I even told you to let me see before it was posted. But you claimed that it was gonna be the greatest thing ever... and while it was alright, it could have been way better and you know it. You, like you do with everything else... you based it off of past glory. You take from what you did years back and claim that you are going to bring it back but you fail to realize... THAT WAS IN THE PAST. We will never let you do something big again without you proving you're credible and I doubt that will ever happen. Then you have the nerve to hate when people call you annoying, I try to be nice to people (despite my recent chatbox outburst) but I'll say it... YOU ARE ANNOYING. And hell, I know I may not be the brightest bulb in the box but I atleast try to better myself, which you DON'T DO.... So take your two month break, while us who put in work are working toward becoming something in ACW.
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Post by xs3 on Aug 3, 2008 1:28:33 GMT -5
I await the ever-impending reply from AK. Her opinion would be nice.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 3, 2008 8:59:27 GMT -5
wtf at random Steele betrayal >_> Steele I shall reply to you when I get back home in an hour...apparently I have issues with more people than I knew...
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Post by Jake on Aug 3, 2008 9:06:52 GMT -5
Halo Voice: Betrayal
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Post by Commissioner Zero on Aug 3, 2008 9:26:07 GMT -5
Well. I don't have much time since I'm leaving soon. But -- Freeman, I would just like to say something to you. I know I'm a bit harsh to you sometimes, but you must understand that I'm mainly just joking around with you. Except for when you ask for advice. That one day when Train, Ken, and I were trying to help you out. Well -- I think Snake was there too, but anyways that's beside the point. You were asking us how to revamp "JASON FREEMAN" ---But every idea that we gave you, you said it was stupid. You didn't give it a chance. You immediately rejected it because it wasn't something that you could see yourself doing. The way you described how you wanted to be pretty much said to me -- "I want to be like BK" However, you're not BK. You're not the same style, you need to try new things and take a risk. That's what me and Ken were trying to tell you. But you didn't listen. Then when the fact of you creating a new character came up, you rejected because all you've worked for! The International and Entertainment title reigns! Yeah! But not many people remember that -- instead they remember what kind of character you are. And when people think of Freeman, I doubt they go "Oh yeah, he was a former champion." So instead of thinking of newer ideas, you rejected every logical one that we had -- and instead went to BK for his opinion. I remember that day. You wouldn't listen to a god damn thing that we were saying -- but instead ignored our words to go to BK, who was already tired of answering. I remember that too, cause you said he wasn't giving you answers which was bothering you.... So all in all. Stop relying on others so much Freeman. Really. You need to try new things. And also like BK said, a stubbed toe isn't so glorious for Train. And that shouldn't take two months to heal. I broke my wrist in April -- had a cast up to my shoulder for it. 6 weeks. Done. There were other injuries that could have made more sense.
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Post by rosslambert on Aug 3, 2008 11:44:54 GMT -5
UT Voice: DOUBLE KILL!
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 3, 2008 12:04:51 GMT -5
The stubbed toe thing was a joke! Obviously it doesnt take two months for a stubbed toe...I was kidding...Chef thought it was funny at the time, now he doesnt but whatever...Ill change it if necessary, but that whole feud was a joke, so I capped it off with a joke...obviously if you get powerbombed off the set and just stub your toe, it should be adknowledged as a joke. And Zero, I was only rejecting the same idea...you guys keep saying I was rejecting different ideas, but it was only the same idea pushed over and over again, and I didnt like that ONE idea....because I thought it was too out there, at least the way TK described it, you described it better, and I considered maybe doing it, but you said you took it, so whatever >_>. But yeah, Steele, wtf is your problem?! I always thought we were pretty cool, but once again it seems that everybody seems to have this problem with me...you come in here and start yelling at me and this didnt even have to do with you at all! Okay Steele lets go back and analyze our whole feud, because you seem to have this sense that you are totally right here, and I was never mad at YOU, but since you seem to be mad at me, lets just go back and see. (yay for automatic chat logs) We start our feud, and I write the first segment, and all is well...for the second segment, I tell you that you have to write this one, and you just dont appear online. You show up right before the show and say that I have to tell BK to save a spot, and I tell you the show was delayed until 8:00, so you say okay, but I say I need the segment by 6 because Im leaving, you dont get it to me, you say youll write your lines in and send it in. I get home, and it's not there. Okay, so next show. Show before Spring into Hell...You have this idea that we're on Cheng's water cooler...it's Sunday night...you claim Cheng is writing this segment, but claim you've never talked to him about it...Im like, Then obviously the segment isnt happening...and then you dissapear when I say we need to think of a new segment. You never show up until after the next show, and I couldnt really think of a segment in time that would announce the match and had NO idea what was going on because you had this whole plan based on something that as far as I could see wasnt happening, and didnt. Okay, so then you are leaving for two weeks, but you dont TELL Me, so we can work it out...I think of a way to write you out of the storyline...ME, personally, and I write the segment we do it, whatever. Then you are coming back, but you neglect to tell me until I ask you, and so Sunday Night we decide to have you front row at ringside, I tell you to send the instructions, you say you will...so then its Monday before the show. [14:54] Freeman: Did you send "DA INSTRUCTIONS" [14:54] J. Steele: <____< So I tell you to do it. Later [21:17] Freeman: Did you send the instructions? >_> [21:18] J. Steele: Postponed. [21:18] J. Steele: I'll do it tommorow. <_< Tommorow comes....show goes up...NOTHING [18:58] Freeman: .... [18:58] Freeman: *cough* [18:58] J. Steele: >_> I [18:59] Freeman: <_< [19:00] Freeman: Cmon, man... [19:03] J. Steele: >_> You dont even apologize....I have been completely running this feud basically for the first part...THEN you never get online so we cant get in sync, FINALLY I make this huge plan, where you will come ringside, and I basically make a showby show schedule leading up to Omega Effect, and then I find out its out because you're booked, and it screws up everything. And we work it out, and then the next two shows, you write the segments, and add Kudo without informing me...and completely take off, taking the momentum off of our feud to go to the Kudo feud, and it is only those LAST THREE SHOWS where I dont do much for the feud... Steele, I did mostly EVERYTHING for our feud, I was on top of things, and kept things going when YOU were acting lazy, but towards the end, when I got out of things, your answer was to completely exclude me, and hold things against me, when you were lazier for MUCH LONGER, and I never held anything against you, I thought that was ridiculous...out of the two of us, I think I did more for our feud than you did, and Im tired of hearing from BK and you that I didnt And Im taking a two month break to repackage my stale character because I kinda wanna be interesting again and credibe, and its completely necessary to do so. Plus, as I said, for revitalized interest, okay, but DONT EVER say anything about how our feud was MY fault...Im tired of hearing it...please feel free to refute any points I have made, but I honestly dont think you can.... Steele, if you wanna us to be cool again though I have no problem with that >_>
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