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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 8, 2011 18:04:30 GMT -5
It's just become rioting for the sake of rioting now.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 8, 2011 18:08:01 GMT -5
Great, the liberal Jew comes in and starts his liberal Jew agenda and now we have politics.
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Post by Brian Bravado (Jonny Hughes) on Aug 8, 2011 18:14:45 GMT -5
Holy shit, TK coming in dropping hard j's.
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Post by Fallen Souls on Aug 8, 2011 18:36:15 GMT -5
Wait, was Mainer just defending pedophiles a second ago?
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Aug 8, 2011 20:24:06 GMT -5
TK comes in and goes all Ace Freley on the topic.
Freeman, so you're getting upset that as a mod I dropped the title? Earlier your argument was I shouldn't have been champion. Make up your mind!!! Then you go and say that I shouldn't have been allowed to compete? There was never a single moderator in ACW that was told they couldn't compete in ACW. BK London competed and won matches based on calc's, you don't get mad at him. Senator won matches on calcs and you didn't complain. If you really get down to it you defended Senator for the entire OEV thing and as much as Senator is my friend, he screwed TK a lot more than you can say I screwed you. I didn't make some back door deal to get the title or in this case Fallen Heroes, I simply out wrote you. You can't say you were screwed as bad as FSX was because the random could've been rigged ... you had a higher random score. At the end of the day there was no screw job. Mainer deserved a title run in ACW for everything he did here, the same as you did and you both eventually got one. After that I outwrote you and won on calcs which you admitted was fair. You're only argument was that I shouldn't have been allowed to compete, yet you never had a problem with BK's entire run in 2008 following Omega Effect, you had no problem with Senator's run following Omega Effect in 2009. It's simply you being offended to be offended about something which TK basically hit on the head.
Why you don't you go and study so you can make something of yourself.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 8, 2011 20:47:35 GMT -5
Im not mad that you competed as a mod, Im mad that you competed as the world champion. If you werent the champion going into that match Id be okay with you winning. But you dropped the title to Mainer and instantly won the #1 contender match right after, thus keeping the title in your feud. You shouldnt have been in that match because you were really the champion, and I find it hard to believe you're decision to give Mainer the belt and win Fallen Heroes wasnt intended in any way to stop ME from winning it. And in the event of the tie I don't think it's fair that you took the title shot considering you had JUST HAD THE CHAMPIONSHIP GOING INTO THE SHOW and just put yourself back in the feud. I don't have a problem with a mod as champion, I never did.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Aug 8, 2011 20:50:42 GMT -5
Im not mad that you competed as a mod, Im mad that you competed as the world champion. If you werent the champion going into that match Id be okay with you winning. But you dropped the title to Mainer and instantly won the #1 contender match right after, thus keeping the title in your feud. You shouldnt have been in that match because you were really the champion, and I find it hard to believe you're decision to give Mainer the belt and win Fallen Heroes wasnt intended in any way to stop ME from winning it. And in the event of the tie I don't think it's fair that you took the title shot considering you had JUST HAD THE CHAMPIONSHIP GOING INTO THE SHOW and just put yourself back in the feud. I don't have a problem with a mod as champion, I never did. Right, so you're just upset it's me and are grasping at straws to sway public opinion. Typical liberal.
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 8, 2011 20:54:49 GMT -5
No, I am not mad it's you. Im mad you went into the payperview as champion, and then dropped the title to go on and win the #1 contender spot that IMO I should have won. You had the choice to give the win to me or you. You chose you, despite the fact you could have had the belt if you wanted to and didnt need to be #1 contender. If you say you dropped the belt because you didnt want it, why were you taking the #1 contender spot if you dont plan on being champion? When someone like me who DID want to win the belt was competing.
This is pretty much exactly what happened to TK with BK which I had forgotten about, where BK won the match solely to stop TK from winning it, even though he didnt even want the title shot that came with it, and also you didnt even BEAT me, you tied with me.
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Post by TJ on Aug 8, 2011 21:28:16 GMT -5
Let me give you this thought Freeman: Your friend decides that he is going to steal from his own business and tells you and your group of friends. None of you try to stop him and even go as far as to agree and tell him it's what he should do, you're just as much to blame. So stop focusing just on CP because you two never seen eye to eye. Senator and the rest of the staff are just to blame, and I have not seen you once "attack" them.
For as long as Ive known CP, he is the farthest away from a corrupt mod. He's quit feds as a staff because the other staff members made themselves champions or gave their friends shots. He's stood by me when I went against an entire staff for doing that. I find it hard to believe that CP did that to keep the title away from you because you ended up with the title anyways, so if he wanted to keep the title from you, he could have. So I don't see the reason for you're bitching. Wah he takes a shot at you, GROW THE FUCK UP. DId VorteX bitch about CP taking a shot at him? For a post, not for 5 pages.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 8, 2011 23:00:14 GMT -5
For the record: I do not dislike Jews. One of my better friends is a Jew, or at least he calls himself that. He is a Jew that doesn't practice his religion, which in turn I call a not a Jew, but a guy who is a "Middle East" descendent. He doesn't like that; I don't care. I call a spade a spade, even one's named Johnny. As Freeman has aged, he has turned into another typical American Jew that slants to the FAR left. You know, the kind that wants to give the middle class away, especially their values, ethics and morality systems, while he stays barred away from the ills of society by a giant gate. Bite me. Hollywood is loaded with these types and they have done a number on this country. You know things are bad when people live their life to the standard of "Family Guy" or whatever satire Seth Green decides to vomit out of his anus.
Ahem, anyway ...
Look, I don't know what really happened here, but I do not like to see people get screwed. Period. If CP really played the field to play keep away from someone else, I have to say that was wrong. He still was ten times better for this place than Freeman, and personally, a better friend.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Aug 8, 2011 23:25:51 GMT -5
Exactly, TK and TJ both said the same damn thing I did.
If I had wanted to, I could have easily kept you away from the title Freeman. I didn't though, I wrote a damn good feud with Mainer while you had a damn good one with Senator that you already had planned out prior. Then I, and the rest of the mod team (and don't go correctin' my grammar) had Mainer defend against you. That didn't happen with Hunter and TK, it didn't happen with Ridley and Bladeshadow, but it happened for you. We made someone write with someone they didn't want to. That wasn't stone walling you, that was giving you an opportunity, that was giving Mainer an opportunity.
You're all butt hurt because you didn't get to win Fallen Heroes well guess what; if you had won Fallen Heroes you wouldn't have won the title. The only reason you tied me was random and fatigue, two things which wouldn't have been present at Omega Effect. Essentially the only reason you got the strap was because I won FH. I would've lost it to Mainer after OE, he would've faced TJ in all likelihood coming out of the crucible, and then Scorpion because I would've asked of him the same I asked of you to let me put him over in a #1 contenders match. By that point ACW was dead and you would've never got your reign. TJ said it exactly, if I had wanted to you would've never been champion but I didn't and you can say Senator wouldn't have let me, but Senator wouldn't have made Mainer face you. The best you could've hoped for is Mainer to be like BK and let you into a feud he had planned which with the way he thought of you I highly doubt would've happened.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 8, 2011 23:45:18 GMT -5
The only reason you tied me was random and fatigue, two things which wouldn't have been present at Omega Effect. Random and fatigue? It's official, the calc system was horseshit.
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Post by Kim Jong CP on Aug 9, 2011 0:20:25 GMT -5
The only reason you tied me was random and fatigue, two things which wouldn't have been present at Omega Effect. Random and fatigue? It's official, the calc system was horseshit. I didn't come up with it. If I had a say it would've had consistency or some other metrics. The fatigue I got, logically you'd be tired after one match already but random I did not like though not for the same reason as FSX
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Post by The Mainerishi on Aug 9, 2011 15:47:30 GMT -5
Wait, was Mainer just defending pedophiles a second ago?
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Post by Jason Freeman on Aug 9, 2011 16:22:50 GMT -5
I dunno, random in general is kind of stupid, though for Fallen Heroes it was used for entrance order and that seemed pretty good to me. Logically, your random entrance order should reflect how hard it is to win the match. It does seem to have a little too much weight though, and fatique seems to have not ENOUGH weight to me....only one point off for wrestling a whole other match, when usually it was implied by the mods that that was a big deal.
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