Post by BK London on Jun 25, 2009 22:31:37 GMT -5
This was initially supposed to be a mod response and AK has said that she will deliver a personal response of her own to these events, but somewhere along the like this became a bit more personal - so I've decided to ditch the whole mod attempt and give my view on things. This might incite a lot of criticism, but I'm hoping it could cause more good than harm - keyword: hoping.
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So, even though the drama surrounding the main event of Omega Effect and it's aftermath has passed over for the most part - I feel like there should be a few things addressed and that should be aired out, as to not totally confuse anyone or have them fall into a sense that calcs are going to screw them at any whim in the most important of situations.
I have been a moderator in ACW for almost two years now, but the days before being a moderator are still as fresh in my mind as ever. Before the calcs system was revealed to me when I became a mod, I pretty much had an idea of how the system worked - since the bulk of it has been revealed to the roster. I knew that if I wrote at a certain level, and I wrote frequently for most shows, I would secure myself with wins nearly 100% of the time. And I'd say, for the most part I won all of my matches whether they were requested or it was part of a feud. But there were some instances as well where I was absolutely flabbergasted by losses, due to the effort that I put into the match.
The first scenario that comes into mind was when I lost an Entertainment Title Match at Seven Deadly Sins 2004 to Spider (the match also included Skurai), and it just didn't make sense. While I was far from the best writer on the roster, I definitely wrote circles around Spider and the effort was definitely shown on my behalf way more than him. Because of that, I even went as far as to create a storyline which put my career on the line against Spider if I didn't win the ET Title at Heatwave the following month. Now, I had no real intention of leaving - but if I did lose, I had no way to stage a return that wouldn't make me look like an idiot. So it was pretty much a sink or swim situation, and luckily I won the match and that eventually won me ET champ of the year - even though both of my reigns never went past 3 weeks.
I've also had several other experiences in ACW with a similar outcomes which didn't favor me, but I have convinced myself that you're going to lose from time to time - and it may not seem fair due to how much effort you have put in, but it's all about how you capitalize on those losses. ACW's calc system has evolved from the days of using your post count as a way to determine winners in matches, to more complex factors that rely on the level of writing a person is at. It has evolved from people like DownWithBush winning the ACW Championship, to people like Jake Steele, Jay Zero, The Senator, and others - people who genuinely work hard to make their segments some of the most compelling on the show. But it definitely still has it's flaws that needs to be worked out, I admit. It's not a perfect system, and I believe that the Omega Effect V main event portrayed that to some extent. However, the fact that so much drama can come from the system that has benefitted the people in the match on multiple occassions is beyond me.
I really wouldn't like to use names in this rant, but it's inevitable since all of you know I'm going to be referring to the departure of Thunderkiss from the fed. I have read his rant on his departure from ACW - and on one hand I can see where he's coming from, and on the other hand, I'd say that it's not fair to blame the calc system that has benefitted him - that we have tried to make as fair as possible - to be flawed simply because he could not win his match at Omega Effect. All three men put in quite an amount of effort into this match, and as hard as it may seem - as hard as it may be to comprehend from the view on the outside of the mod realm - it indeed a tie, and I think that I'd rather a strong tie between three men than what went down at last year's Omega Effect main event. It was frustrating from all parties to see it end up in a tie, as each men definitely wanted to win the match with such a passion - and while I didn't necessarily agree to the participants determining the winner - I do believe it would've been far worse for the fed as a whole to determine the winner in the main event.
It is not a foreign idea for a match to be determiend by the opponents, but it takes away from the surprise of the ending if the people decide. Why? Because people can then ask who they voted for and tabluate the votes themselves to see who wins at the end. The Senator believed, and trusted that all three of you could come to a decision on who's qualified to win this match the most, without any turmoil - but I guess he was let down by the aftermath when TK left. I too was not happy upon learning of some deal being made, but I don't think it should've mattered when I heard that he himself did not want to win the match anymore - and I don't think the two men considered that themselves.
Also, the idea that seniority coming into play as to who wins the championship or even gets a shot is as bogus as the champion not picking their opponents. There are a few of us still around that joined in 2004, but most of us have retired because we are confident in the future of ACW - that it can still be supported by the new guys and we can reign in a new era of champions. In fact, the only people still around from 2004 (not including my return at OE) have yet to actually win the ACW belt. We trust in the Jake Stelee's, the VorteX's, the Jason Freeman's, the Danny Mainer's and Dave Shadow's (not purposely leaving anyone out) - to carry the fed into another golden era, while members like The Senator, Dan White, and Jonny Spade are there to remind us of the old days (and Hitman too!).
I also feel that the champion should pick their opponents, and more times out none - they usually pick someone worthy of recieving a title shot. We trust in the champion to seek out the finest challengers for some of the most interesting matches, and they succeed most of the time. Jake Steele and myself have been champion for most of the year, and in this year we've seen The Senator, Scott Andrews, Kudo Yasuda, Jay Zero, Fallen Souls, XS3, The Macho Man RDK, and Thunderkiss himself as challengers for the belt (not including the mid month challenges) - and there are plenty of new talent to recieve the rub to get a one on one shot.
What I'm basically trying to say with my rebuttal against Thunderkiss' rant and my own personal experiences is that while the calc system on a few occasions has dealt someone the wrong fate, it isn't a totally flawed and untrusting system as it is made out to be. In fact, plenty of good has come from it. We as mods will continue to improve the system throughout the years to ensure that it continues to become more and more fair down the line, but as of right now - I'd say it's in a good place.
Feel free to comment and share your own ideas on this.
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So, even though the drama surrounding the main event of Omega Effect and it's aftermath has passed over for the most part - I feel like there should be a few things addressed and that should be aired out, as to not totally confuse anyone or have them fall into a sense that calcs are going to screw them at any whim in the most important of situations.
I have been a moderator in ACW for almost two years now, but the days before being a moderator are still as fresh in my mind as ever. Before the calcs system was revealed to me when I became a mod, I pretty much had an idea of how the system worked - since the bulk of it has been revealed to the roster. I knew that if I wrote at a certain level, and I wrote frequently for most shows, I would secure myself with wins nearly 100% of the time. And I'd say, for the most part I won all of my matches whether they were requested or it was part of a feud. But there were some instances as well where I was absolutely flabbergasted by losses, due to the effort that I put into the match.
The first scenario that comes into mind was when I lost an Entertainment Title Match at Seven Deadly Sins 2004 to Spider (the match also included Skurai), and it just didn't make sense. While I was far from the best writer on the roster, I definitely wrote circles around Spider and the effort was definitely shown on my behalf way more than him. Because of that, I even went as far as to create a storyline which put my career on the line against Spider if I didn't win the ET Title at Heatwave the following month. Now, I had no real intention of leaving - but if I did lose, I had no way to stage a return that wouldn't make me look like an idiot. So it was pretty much a sink or swim situation, and luckily I won the match and that eventually won me ET champ of the year - even though both of my reigns never went past 3 weeks.
I've also had several other experiences in ACW with a similar outcomes which didn't favor me, but I have convinced myself that you're going to lose from time to time - and it may not seem fair due to how much effort you have put in, but it's all about how you capitalize on those losses. ACW's calc system has evolved from the days of using your post count as a way to determine winners in matches, to more complex factors that rely on the level of writing a person is at. It has evolved from people like DownWithBush winning the ACW Championship, to people like Jake Steele, Jay Zero, The Senator, and others - people who genuinely work hard to make their segments some of the most compelling on the show. But it definitely still has it's flaws that needs to be worked out, I admit. It's not a perfect system, and I believe that the Omega Effect V main event portrayed that to some extent. However, the fact that so much drama can come from the system that has benefitted the people in the match on multiple occassions is beyond me.
I really wouldn't like to use names in this rant, but it's inevitable since all of you know I'm going to be referring to the departure of Thunderkiss from the fed. I have read his rant on his departure from ACW - and on one hand I can see where he's coming from, and on the other hand, I'd say that it's not fair to blame the calc system that has benefitted him - that we have tried to make as fair as possible - to be flawed simply because he could not win his match at Omega Effect. All three men put in quite an amount of effort into this match, and as hard as it may seem - as hard as it may be to comprehend from the view on the outside of the mod realm - it indeed a tie, and I think that I'd rather a strong tie between three men than what went down at last year's Omega Effect main event. It was frustrating from all parties to see it end up in a tie, as each men definitely wanted to win the match with such a passion - and while I didn't necessarily agree to the participants determining the winner - I do believe it would've been far worse for the fed as a whole to determine the winner in the main event.
It is not a foreign idea for a match to be determiend by the opponents, but it takes away from the surprise of the ending if the people decide. Why? Because people can then ask who they voted for and tabluate the votes themselves to see who wins at the end. The Senator believed, and trusted that all three of you could come to a decision on who's qualified to win this match the most, without any turmoil - but I guess he was let down by the aftermath when TK left. I too was not happy upon learning of some deal being made, but I don't think it should've mattered when I heard that he himself did not want to win the match anymore - and I don't think the two men considered that themselves.
Also, the idea that seniority coming into play as to who wins the championship or even gets a shot is as bogus as the champion not picking their opponents. There are a few of us still around that joined in 2004, but most of us have retired because we are confident in the future of ACW - that it can still be supported by the new guys and we can reign in a new era of champions. In fact, the only people still around from 2004 (not including my return at OE) have yet to actually win the ACW belt. We trust in the Jake Stelee's, the VorteX's, the Jason Freeman's, the Danny Mainer's and Dave Shadow's (not purposely leaving anyone out) - to carry the fed into another golden era, while members like The Senator, Dan White, and Jonny Spade are there to remind us of the old days (and Hitman too!).
I also feel that the champion should pick their opponents, and more times out none - they usually pick someone worthy of recieving a title shot. We trust in the champion to seek out the finest challengers for some of the most interesting matches, and they succeed most of the time. Jake Steele and myself have been champion for most of the year, and in this year we've seen The Senator, Scott Andrews, Kudo Yasuda, Jay Zero, Fallen Souls, XS3, The Macho Man RDK, and Thunderkiss himself as challengers for the belt (not including the mid month challenges) - and there are plenty of new talent to recieve the rub to get a one on one shot.
What I'm basically trying to say with my rebuttal against Thunderkiss' rant and my own personal experiences is that while the calc system on a few occasions has dealt someone the wrong fate, it isn't a totally flawed and untrusting system as it is made out to be. In fact, plenty of good has come from it. We as mods will continue to improve the system throughout the years to ensure that it continues to become more and more fair down the line, but as of right now - I'd say it's in a good place.
Feel free to comment and share your own ideas on this.